New Leupold Canada Warranty

?????? As far as warranty work goes wouldn't Korth get paid by Leupold for the work they do ????? and if so why would they want to refuse the work ??????? There must be something else going on here behind the scene we're not aware of ??????????????
 
I have two Leupolds and really like them, but will look at a Vortex for my next scope.
 
T.B.G. said:
?????? As far as warranty work goes wouldn't Korth get paid by Leupold for the work they do ????? and if so why would they want to refuse the work ??????? There must be something else going on here behind the scene we're not aware of ??????????????
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And where does that money come frome? Sales of new scopes I would think. Of course Korth wont refuse the work but Leuplod may in time give second thoughts to let them doing the work as in the end they will me a money loser not maker. just simple econonomics, nothing more.
 
bearkilr said:
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Where does it specify this in the e-mail? All she states are the legal requirements for importing used scopes, which incidentally are the same as importing new scopes. If these new scopes were manufactured prior to Nov.1, how would they deny warranty? I'm sure there are dealers in the US who will have scopes on the shelves which were built prior to Nov.1 for quite some time yet. Will they ask for import papers?

Para. 2

It does not specify "purchased". Only scopes manufactured after Nov.1 will fall under the warranty denial.
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It says it right in their news release, on Korth's site. http://www.korthgroup.com/canadian-warranty.html

Leupold & Stevens Inc. in conjunction with Korth Group Ltd. of Okotoks, AB would like to advise all prospective purchasers of Leupold & Stevens Inc. product that effective immediately the only products covered by our warranty in Canada will be products purchased through authorized Leupold dealers and supplied by our authorized importer, Korth Group Ltd
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Originally Posted by bearkilr
Para. 1
Where does it specify this in the e-mail? All she states are the legal requirements for importing used scopes, which incidentally are the same as importing new scopes. If these new scopes were manufactured prior to Nov.1, how would they deny warranty? I'm sure there are dealers in the US who will have scopes on the shelves which were built prior to Nov.1 for quite some time yet. Will they ask for import papers?

Para. 2

It does not specify "purchased". Only scopes manufactured after Nov.1 will fall under the warranty denial.
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blargon said:
It says it right in their news release, on Korth's site. http://www.korthgroup.com/canadian-warranty.html
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OK, one more time........... It really shouldn't take a room full of lawyers to figure this one out.

. Just to re-affirm this only pertains to scopes manufactured from Nov 1st 2010 – so anything pre-this date is not an issue. The only option at this moment to check Serial #’s on Optics you wish to purchase is to call Leupold USA and they can advise you quite efficiently the details associated to the scope. With regards to purchasing new vs used the only thing is to buy from a reputable person/dealer and similar to purchasing a vehicle if you do the homework first by confirming the Serial # and then the Import/Export if its in question.

Hope this answers all of your questions, feel free to contact us for more information.

Regards,

Donna Chevrier
Korth Group Ltd
www.korthgroup.com
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Most of this ITAR and import/export exists between the USA and only a select few countries... Canada being one of the very few... As far as I know you can buy scope in Europe and have sent herewithout any paperwork... correct me if I am wrong... and as far as I know a country like Germany can buy leupold direct from the USA. Maybe I am mistaken correct me if I am wrong.

Due to the fact the majority of the good stuff is made in the USA its bad luck for us... Maybe its time to start buying Tikka rifles and Zeiss Kales and other european products.

I am disapointed in the new leupold policy as well I have 6 very expensive leupolds... assuming the first person imports the scope correctly and has all the paperwork and then sells it to a second person that then sells it to a third person and along the way the permits get lost i guess you dont have a warrenty.... once the scope is imported correctly who keeps loads a paperwork... most people dont even keep the box...
 
msg.drew said:
Most of this ITAR and import/export exists between the USA and only a select few countries... Canada being one of the very few... As far as I know you can buy scope in Europe and have sent herewithout any paperwork... correct me if I am wrong... and as far as I know a country like Germany can buy leupold direct from the USA. Maybe I am mistaken correct me if I am wrong.

Due to the fact the majority of the good stuff is made in the USA its bad luck for us... Maybe its time to start buying Tikka rifles and Zeiss Kales and other european products.

I am disapointed in the new leupold policy as well I have 6 very expensive leupolds... assuming the first person imports the scope correctly and has all the paperwork and then sells it to a second person that then sells it to a third person and along the way the permits get lost i guess you dont have a warrenty.... once the scope is imported correctly who keeps loads a paperwork... most people dont even keep the box...
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From Leupold website:
Customers located in the following countries may return riflescopes to the product service facility in their country or the Leupold factory WITHOUT import/export licensing requirements:

AUSTRALIA, BELGIUM, DENMARK, FRANCE, GERMANY, GREECE, ICELAND, ITALY, JAPAN, LUXEMBOURG, NETHERLANDS, NEW ZEALAND, NORWAY, NEW CALEDONIA, PORTUGAL, SCOTLAND, SPAIN, TURKEY, ENGLAND, UNITED KINGDOM

Customers located in the following countries MUST obtain an IMPORT CERTIFICATE issued by the MINISTRY OF DEFENSE in their country before returning a riflescope to the factory:

ANTIGUA, BARBUDA, ARGENTINA, THE BAHAMAS, BARBADOS, BELIZE, BOLIVIA , BRAZIL, CHILE, COLOMBIA, COSTA RICA, DOMINICA , DOMINICAN REPUBLIC, ECUADOR, EL SALVADOR, GRENADA, GUATEMALA, GUYANA, HAITI, HONDURAS, JAMAICA, MEXICO, NICARAGUA, PANAMA, PARAGUAY, PERU, ST. KITTS, NEVIS, ST. LUCIA, ST. VINCENT, GRENADINES, SURINAME, TRINIDAD, TOBAGO, URUGUAY, VENEZUELA
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According to the e-mail, the Canadian warranty denial only applies to scopes manufactured after Nov.1/2010. I know their website doesn't specify, but that is what she stated in her e-mail to "BigUglyMan". In other words, your scopes are fine.

This has little to do with export laws, from what I can see, though they try to make it sound that way. Window dressing is all that is.
Korth is protecting themselves from others importing scopes for less money due to the dollar being on par, and I can see their point.

Leupold needs to step up and drop the prices on scopes sold to Korth. I think we're a bit quick to blame everything on Korth here, unless of course they have a huge mark-up when they sell to dealers, then all the blame is on Korth. :D
 
bearkilr said:
According to the e-mail, the Canadian warranty denial only applies to scopes manufactured after Nov.1/2010. I know their website doesn't specify, but that is what she stated in her e-mail to "BigUglyMan". In other words, your scopes are fine.

This has little to do with export laws, from what I can see, though they try to make it sound that way. Window dressing is all that is.
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Then they should post this info on their site. The release says purchased, which is what the majority of the country will read, not a private email written to a forum member. More word twisting...

Agree, this has nothing to do with export laws, and all to do with protecting a monopoly.
 
bearkilr said:
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According to the e-mail, the Canadian warranty denial only applies to scopes manufactured after Nov.1/2010. I know their website doesn't specify, but that is what she stated in her e-mail to "BigUglyMan". In other words, your scopes are fine.

This has little to do with export laws, from what I can see, though they try to make it sound that way. Window dressing is all that is.
Korth is protecting themselves from others importing scopes for less money due to the dollar being on par, and I can see their point.

Leupold needs to step up and drop the prices on scopes sold to Korth. I think we're a bit quick to blame everything on Korth here, unless of course they have a huge mark-up when they sell to dealers, then all the blame is on Korth. :D
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Korth is absolutley to blame, they have a huge mark-up, is hugely different betweent dealers they sell to, what does that tell you? How do I know because I happen to know the dealers and what they pay. Its absolutely abssurd, korth is ripping them off aimho. Were I leupold I'd yank the line from korth in an instant. they pull a simillar stunt on other products they sell.
 
Sent a letter off to Leupld regarding Korths stupidity. hopefully it helps a little, in the mean time will NEVER buy another new leupld. only used.
 
korth is very expensive for wholesale on the scopes and kimber rifles.worked at a small outooor store for a couple months and looked over lots of wholesale catalogs.alot of the scopes form korth wholesale were more than retail from the usa.they left little room for profit.as for kimber rifles even less profit.normally you had a 10% mark up or less for a kimber rifle.for example wholesale would be $1250 and suggested retail was $1395.lots of profit there.not
 
blackie9999 said:
korth is very expensive for wholesale on the scopes and kimber rifles.worked at a small outooor store for a couple months and looked over lots of wholesale catalogs.alot of the scopes form korth wholesale were more than retail from the usa.they left little room for profit.as for kimber rifles even less profit.normally you had a 10% mark up or less for a kimber rifle.for example wholesale would be $1250 and suggested retail was $1395.lots of profit there.not
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It's going to get way worse for Leupold, after Nov 01/10..lol
 
There is nothing a company fears more than having their name (KORTH in this case) rubbed in the MUD on the internet.
I was going to buy a new Leupold 8.5-25X50 LR scope; but am now looking at other brands from other countries.
 
Gents,

If you have a nightforce, leupold, US Optics, Trijicon, aimpoint etc and it was not exported out of the US properly...you don't have a warranty. All have the same policy....it has to be exported properly. Tis the issue with US made scopes. So if you have a grey market scope and you have a problem...you are out of luck. Ask some people with issues with their ACOG and can't do a thing about it....expensive paperweight.

Korth is dealing with the same issue. If it is not exported properly...you don't get a warranty...
 
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