Looking to purchase a nightforce scope for my new sako trg-22. Thinking about the 5.5x22-50, problem is which reticle to pick. I will be shooting up to 1000yds with it and it would be nice to have some kind of rangefinding capability, any thoughts out there?
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Both the NPR-1 and NPR-2 IMHO are great choices. The lines are MOA's which work well for come ups and for rangeing. I like the NPR-1, 1 MOA lines on the vertical axis and 2MOA on the horizontal. One of the guys I shoot with says the NPR-1 is too busy of reticle for him, so he prefers the 2
With a bit of practice, you can range no problem.
Best option, look through both, at a shop where you can look 500-1000m, then decide.
Either way, your going to have a great piece of Glass.
With a bit of practice, you can range no problem.
Best option, look through both, at a shop where you can look 500-1000m, then decide.
Either way, your going to have a great piece of Glass.
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The Math is easier to do on the fly with a true MOA scope also.
(Target size in inches DIVIDED by MOA x 100 = Range in yards)
(IE 30 inch target looks to be 5 dashes tall in scope..... 30/5*100 = 600 yards)
Mil-dot is a harder formula
Also, with true MOA you can spot for a buddy easier. You see his impact and just count the dashes..... most turrets are 1/4 MOA clicks.... so you can easily say how many click to move.
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That would be the optic I would recommend for the rifle and the task.
The NPR1 would be my suggestion for reticle. It is without doubt the reticle we sell the most of because it makes the most sense for the reason of fine lines rather than dot, fine increments of measure and the turrets come in 1/4 MOA as standard.
Mil reticles can be had as well but then there is an upcharge to get 1/10 mil turrets. AND Mils are a larger unit of measure so are harder to get precise adjustments at long distance.
A 1/4 MOA adjustment at 1000 yards is 2.50", a 1/10 MIL adjustment is 3.66" at the same distance
You are really splitting hairs here. At 1000 yards you can shift your point of impact 3.66" per click with 0.1 mil clicks. That gets you within, worst case scenario, 1.83" of where you want to be.
Using your 2.5" per quarter moa click at 1000 yards gives a worst case 1.25".
That's a *worst case* advantage of .58" at 1000 yards for moa.
PS Your 2.5" at 1000 is iphy, not moa. Quarter moa is more like 2.62" per click.
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I guess it all depends on how precise a person wants to be or get.
I am eagerly awaiting the new 1/8th MOA turrets that will be soon available on the NXS 8x32s as I find the 1/4 MOA clicks to be too great an increment for long range shooting as precise as I prefer it.
Sorry I did not include the 12 thou that 1/4 MOA is off by. Still MOA IS a smaller unit of measure than Mils are.
Admittedly, I am coming from a completely different discipline, and must confess a degree of ignorance about what you are tryng to achieve, (therefore I beg some slack!) but with the advent of ultra-accurate rangefinders, why would you prefer a cluttered reticle instead of a simple fine cross-hair or dot (such as the NP2 or NP2-DD? In 1000 yard shooting sports we like 'em as simple as we can get.
I'm going to jump in here and expand on the OP's original question. Currently I'm researching which reticle to get in the same NF 5.5-22X56 with the goal being long range ethical hunt shots (7-800 yds) on big game and plenty of paper punching practice out to 1000yds.
Does the NF elevation turret have enough range of adjustment to have zero set at 200yds and then adjust to 1000yds? I prefer to range with a good range finder so the reticle won't need to offer that capability. If the scope can make this manual compensation, the reticle becomes less important.
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Dave
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Does the NF elevation turret have enough range of adjustment to have zero set at 200yds and then adjust to 1000yds? I prefer to range with a good range finder so the reticle won't need to offer that capability. If the scope can make this manual compensation, the reticle becomes less important.
Thanks,
Dave
If this strays too far from the OP's question just hit me with a rolled up newspaper and I'll start a fresh thread. Lord knows I've been spending enough time in the search world lately.
Unless you are shooting a muzzle loader, 50 moa (50% of the elevation in a 5.5x22) you should be easily able to zero at 100 yards and still have plenty of elevation to get to 1000. A plus 20 moa rail will also ensure your getting to 1000 yards.
I don't understand why you would zero at 200 yards.
If you zero at 100 with either an R1 or R2 reticle you will find with most high caliber calibers you will have a very close 200 yard zero using the 2moa cross mark in the reticle. It may not be 100% bang on, but certainly close enough for a hunting shot at that close a yardage. Many calibers will also allow for using the 4moa cross mark for 300 yard shots.
A good plan is to confirm these marks and distances to be sure.
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Yes. It will take you around 29 minutes of elevation to go from a 100 yard zero to 1000 yard setting (given the performance of the 208 AMax in my 300 WM) and the 5.5-22x56mm will give you 100 minutes of elevation. Plenty of elevation...depending where your zero ends up in the range of adjustment. Mine was at +70 MOA so I had ATRS build a +40MOA base for it. Haven't shot it yet but should be just right.
FWIW I have the 5.5-22x56mm on my 300 and have the NP-R1 reticle. I love it. You won't regret it.
Thank you gentlemen, you are making this easier. I'll be mounting this on a 300WM as well so your info gives me a good reference to start from. Pretty sure the stock rail on my Tikka Tac is 0MOA so that may need to change depending on the initial range report.
Cheers,
Dave
The OP is setting up a TRG, not a benchrest rig. Whether the scope has 0.1 mil or 1/4 moa dials will make no practical difference for this application and I think you know that. Max difference of about half an inch at 1000 yards (average difference of about 1/4 inch) in your ability to choose point of aim is simply not a factor for the vast majority of usage scenarios.
It's actually 12 hundredths (2.62 - 2.5 = 0.12), not 12 thou but what's an order of magnitude here or there?
To the original poster: Take a look at the MLR reticle on the NF website ( h ttp://nightforceoptics.com/nightforcescopes/RETICLES_OVERVIEW/RETICLES_DETAIL/reticles_detail.html#npr2 ). Paired with the 0.1 mil turrets it should be a good fit for your rifle. Nice rifle by the way.
