have 375 H&h do i need to keep 7 mm rem mag?

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need alittle advice.i have a tc encore prohunter.i have 3 barrels already.375 h&h,25 06 and 7 mm rem mag.just wondering if i should dump the 7mm mag and maybe the 25 06 barrels.a lot of guys swear by the 375 as a almost do all caliber.i am getting a 223 barrel as something for coyotes and such and cheaper to plink with.thanks.i will be reloading the 375.
 
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You'd dump the 25-06 barrel for a .223? weird.

7mm mag, Good enough for Deer, bear, moose and flat shooting. . I think you might add the .223 for cheap shooting but nothing else. You can smoke a deer at 450 yards with the 7mm mag. Your .375 mag is a Boom STick. Personally wouldn't use it for anything less than Grizzly or Polar bear.
 
hi applefarmer.some good advice.getting 223 to introduce my kids to shooting centerfire and for small game.25 06 little hard hitting for coyote and for saving the pelt but thanks for the info
 
Applefarmer said:
You'd dump the 25-06 barrel for a .223? weird.

7mm mag, Good enough for Deer, bear, moose and flat shooting. . I think you might add the .223 for cheap shooting but nothing else. You can smoke a deer at 450 yards with the 7mm mag. Your .375 mag is a Boom STick. Personally wouldn't use it for anything less than Grizzly or Polar bear.
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2nd.

The .223 is great for cheap, recoil-less practice and varmint shooting. The .25-06 is the ideal deer cartridge, and a fantastic long-range coyote gun. It doesn't get much better than a 7mm Rem Mag for moose, elk, bear, and long-range shots at deer. The .375 is great for hunting grizz or polar bear, and perhaps hunting moose and elk in the dark timber.

The .375 is heavier, and has more recoil and gun powder than I want to put up with for your average moose or elk hunting. The 7RM has more recoil, muzzle blast, and powder consumption than I want to put up with for deer hunting. The .25-06 makes a mess of coyotes if you're worried about the hides. The .223 is perfect for the smallest of chores, or for a full day of long-range target or varmint shooting (a couple hundred rounds of 7RM gets tiring after a while).

Keep 'em all!!
 
On north american/ canadian game the 7mm will do everything the 375 will do + give you range that you could not possibly get with the 375.

If you ditched the 375 barrel you could get a .223 barrel if you wanted or if you want a happy medium get a .243 barrel, then later if you want or have to shave your collection the 25-06 would be no great loss. my 2 cents fwiw.
 
Not owning a 375 i can't say for sure but looking at some ballistics on it, it sure seems to loose a lot of ooommppphhhh out past 400. The majority of our 284 and 30 cal seem to hold energy equal or better on long range.And up to 300 or so, how much go-go does one need?

I'd be inclined to keep the 7 myself.
 
Amphibious said:
The 375 H&H is only a dark timber round? You need to spend less on meth and more on an education in balistics.
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HAHA. So you're saying that the .375 H&H is a cutting-edge, long range hunting cartridge? I'd rather not haul a 10lbs rifle up the mountains after sheep, thank you very much. A 6lbs Kimber in .243 would do just fine on deer, or on sheep for that matter.

The only time I need a .375 is when I'm hunting elk in the dark timber, and the only shot I get is at the back end of a fleeting animal at 25 yards. I sure as heck do not want to track a wounded elk through that stuff. You get my point. For everything else, the lighter cartridges put a smile on my face.
 
.375 H&H has similar trajectory to .30-06. It will do a lot.

IMO:

.375 H&H Magnum for elkses, mooseses, bearses and zombies.
.270 Win for everything from mule deer to mountain sheep. Your 7mm magnum might fit this bill very well. The .270 doesn't give up much on the 7mm mag. I don't know much about the .25-06 but it can't be much different in this category, could it?
.223 Rem for gophers, coyotes, ground hogs etc
.22 LR for rabbits and grouse
20 gauge for duckses, grouses and rabbitses.

Makes a pretty good setup where the niches are filled best by the strengths of each cartridge. The 20 gauge leans a little into the uplands, but doesn't kick so hard.

So yes, keep the 7mm magnum unless you're trading it for a .270. :) The .25-06 and 7mm mag might overlap in places? What do you prefer to shoot? What's easier on your ears?
 
Jordan Smith said:
HAHA. So you're saying that the .375 H&H is a cutting-edge, long range hunting cartridge? I'd rather not haul a 10lbs rifle up the mountains after sheep, thank you very much. A 6lbs Kimber in .243 would do just fine on deer, or on sheep for that matter.

The only time I need a .375 is when I'm hunting elk in the dark timber, and the only shot I get is at the back end of a fleeting animal at 25 yards. I sure as heck do not want to track a wounded elk through that stuff. You get my point. For everything else, the lighter cartridges put a smile on my face.
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I should also mention that my comments above were describing my preferences, my choices, and the way I like to do things with the rifles I have at my disposal.

YMMV, and there's nothing wrong with that.
 
I love the .375s, all of them, and they will handle all big game hunting practiced at normal hunting ranges. But, there are lots of folks who like to have rifles that have a specific role rather than one size fits all. Your TC enables you to switch barrels with a minimum of cost or fuss compared to purchasing a stable full of rifles, so the choice of which cartridges you take on can be less limited. The feel and operation of the rifle will not change significantly regardless of which barrel you choose. Get as many or as few as YOU think appropriate.
 
7mm Rem Mag has about the same recoil as a 30-06. Everyone needs one.:pirate:
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2nd.

The .223 is great for cheap, recoil-less practice and varmint shooting. The .25-06 is the ideal deer cartridge, and a fantastic long-range coyote gun. It doesn't get much better than a 7mm Rem Mag for moose, elk, bear, and long-range shots at deer. The .375 is great for hunting grizz or polar bear, and perhaps hunting moose and elk in the dark timber.

The .375 is heavier, and has more recoil and gun powder than I want to put up with for your average moose or elk hunting. The 7RM has more recoil, muzzle blast, and powder consumption than I want to put up with for deer hunting. The .25-06 makes a mess of coyotes if you're worried about the hides. The .223 is perfect for the smallest of chores, or for a full day of long-range target or varmint shooting (a couple hundred rounds of 7RM gets tiring after a while).

Keep 'em all!!
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Practicality

Kelly Timoffee said:
Not owning a 375 i can't say for sure but looking at some ballistics on it, it sure seems to loose a lot of ooommppphhhh out past 400. The majority of our 284 and 30 cal seem to hold energy equal or better on long range.And up to 300 or so, how much go-go does one need?

I'd be inclined to keep the 7 myself.
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Based on over 55 years of hunting, over 25 years of it in B.C. and Alberta, I would say with the addition of the .223 barrel, you have a very practical rifle system for anything in North America.

The .223 will take Coyotes out to 350-400 yards, the 25-06 is a great flat shooting cartridge for deer sized animals, especially on the Prairies, the 7mm Magnum for the medium sized game such as Elk, Moose, and such, and the .375 for a larger species of game.

I have shot a lot of game animals, and 85% of them have been well under 200 yards. For the average hunter, shooting past 300 yards, regardless of calibre, generally results in a wounded animal. Forget all these 900 yard shots you see on TV hunting shows. That is a lot of specialized equipment, and I would like to know just how many wounded animals they get compared to those spectacular one shot kills at those ranges. They don't show them!

I would say you have an excellent range of barrels, with a certain amount of overlap in the selection. With the addition of the .223, the varmint sector can be covered nicely, at a cheaper cost.
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blackie9999 said:
need alittle advice.i have a tc encore prohunter.i have 3 barrels already.375 h&h,25 06 and 7 mm rem mag.just wondering if i should dump the 7mm mag and maybe the 25 06 barrels.a lot of guys swear by the 375 as a almost do all caliber.i am getting a 223 barrel as something for coyotes and such and cheaper to plink with.thanks.i will be reloading the 375.
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:eek: Yes dump the barrels! Then replace them all with complete rifles!:D

Depending on where you hunt and what kind of shots you take will determine what's best for you. If you like the .375 use it. You're gonna shoot it once, maybe twice at a game animal so who cares how much powder it uses, recoil shouldn't be an issue when hunting either. The old H&H is a fantastic cartridge that works on a lot of things..... and works well. BUT ;) I love my 7mm's. This year I'm packing a old Sako AV in 7mm rem. and it shoots 160gr accubonds at 2950 fps into .5moa-.75moa at 100yds. My hunting situation on the praire can put me into 50yd shots out to 450yd shots (I would rarely take that shot) but I think that load serves me very well for close or long shots. I would hate to watch that trophy animal walk away because he was 100yds out of range.

You're .25-06 could be loaded down a bit for coyotes if you like but I like the 6mm's or .25cal alot better for varmints than the .22's.
 
I really like the 7mm RM. I suspect you have a 26 or 28" barrel, right? You can load it to 7x57 levels or spit out 175gr bullets at 3000 fps. There are numerous solids available for coyotes, and again, you can tailor your loads to suit the situation.

Having said that I really like the .25-06 too - it is a great deer round, and is pretty much gives up nothing (practically) to the 7mm RM on that type of game (deer, sheep, antelope).
 
kimberman said:
You're gonna shoot it once, maybe twice at a game animal so who cares how much powder it uses, recoil shouldn't be an issue when hunting either.
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The issue isn't so much the recoil or powder consumption used during the 1 or 2 shots taken while hunting, but the 100's of shots that should be taken while practicing when you're not hunting.
 
1899 said:
I really like the 7mm RM. I suspect you have a 26 or 28" barrel, right? You can load it to 7x57 levels or spit out 175gr bullets at 3000 fps. There are numerous solids available for coyotes, and again, you can tailor your loads to suit the situation.

Having said that I really like the .25-06 too - it is a great deer round, and is pretty much gives up nothing (practically) to the 7mm RM on that type of game (deer, sheep, antelope).
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Yessir, +1.
 
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