Wooden Foregrip on CZ 858

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Could somebody please tell me if all wooden foregrips for the vzs or czs are home-made, or if anyone knows of someone who is making one to sell?

Im talking about the kind that form into part of the lower handguard and its all wood so it looks like a foregrip is just coming out of the wood naturally.

I tried looking on this section, and ive found a couple people made, im just wondering if someone else out there maybe knows whats up.

Really useful information as i would love a foregrip but i hate the un-natural look most foregrips give it.
 
By home made, I assume you mean privately and the answer is yes. There are a few guys on the forum here who have made wood stocks for their cz. wood880, bfiles, and kevin m. if I am not mistaken. Those names stick out for some reason. Put a WTB ad in the EE you might find a pair.
 
Actually some armor's kit's had actuall wood furniture kit's for the 858 but it's been a long time since I seen a kit for sale that wasn't home made. Post an add in the EE would be my best bet.
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Satain said:
Actually some armor's kit's had actuall wood furniture kit's for the 858 but it's been a long time since I seen a kit for sale that wasn't home made. Post an add in the EE would be my best bet.
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He was asking about a one-piece wooden fore-end with integral vertical grip, like Deckard made. Not a regular shaped fore-end.
 
Here was another version I made early on. It had the weirdest look, but very ergonomic.
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It solved the problem of removing the magazine perfectly. The first Romanian style grip was made tracing a real AK type. That was too rearward and prevented the magazine from coming out. This design was a compromise. To answer your question, I don't think I have time to make more, but I will share how it was done. They all are done the same: inner shape, laminate outside.

You need a drill, dremel with rotary rasp heads and a bandsaw.

1. Trace your existing handguard. Study the shape of the rear and the front carefully. Note the thickness too and look for wood.
2. Draw the Romanian style grip on the template near the front. Add a bit of extra material at the rear. Draw the shape of the side panels on thin cardboard. You use the rifle as a guide too.
3. With a bandsaw cut out the rough shape. Cut out the side panels.
4. Roughly finish the rear. Drill a hole at the rear that will later be used for the pin. Use the bandsaw to cut up to but not into the hole. Use the dremel to finish the exact shape using the old stock as a measuring guide. It took about 15 minutes as I recall.
5. The front end is really hard to make. I failed there repeatedly. To shape the front out of wood is near impossible. It gets too thin and breaks. In the end, I made a seperate block, much thicker, that is applied later. The good part is it helps in fitting. Get the shape and apply with glue, sliding it on after fitting the rear end first. It makes for a good fit. Let dry a day.
6. With the little stock pin in, the rough grip should be useable. Fit and glue on the side panels. Let dry.
7. Next, as you can imagine, you dremel a lot. This takes heaps of time. Then sand and finish. The finish on this one, btw, is painted to look like the original stock finish.

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I can take pictures if you want.

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Thanks man, i really appreciate you writing all that up. Ill see if i can find someone i know with the skill set to help me do that.

seriously, i dont think i can +rep on here, but thanks a lot, you should post that as a sticky.
 
No problem. Here is an old failed attempt that shows the inner core (1 1/8 inch hard wood thickness btw; length is 7 1/4 inch; grip is about 3 inches). You can see how the drilling and dremel creates the rear - pretty basic.

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This view shows how I tried to duplicate the front, but it got too thin and cracked.

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That ruined all the work up to that point. So I made a seperate block that glues on later so I wouldn't screw up again.

Here is some more. The first one took a table saw and I painted it. The second one a scrollsaw. This stuff is addicting, so be warned.

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Let me know how it turns out.
 
I was planning on making a big production run, but it never go off the ground due to issues with the duplicator I was building.

It is a hugely time consuming process without a duplicator, taking close to a 15 man hours just to get a good, tight fitting piece, and that is before staining the wood.

If I get my duplicator working this winter, or if I just go all out and get a Gemini Duplicator, then I will make a run of 20 stocks or so, and more if there is demand. I will see what happens over the winter. Money is not infinite, and getting the production run going is not cheap. Time will tell.

Here is my work:

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Kevin M. said:
I was planning on making a big production run, but it never go off the ground due to issues with the duplicator I was building.

It is a hugely time consuming process without a duplicator, taking close to a 15 man hours just to get a good, tight fitting piece, and that is before staining the wood.

If I get my duplicator working this winter, or if I just go all out and get a Gemini Duplicator, then I will make a run of 20 stocks or so, and more if there is demand. I will see what happens over the winter. Money is not infinite, and getting the production run going is not cheap. Time will tell.

Here is my work:

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thanks, if you do ever make them, make sure you got my name down on a list for it, also that wood stock is beautiful, i talked to the guys at arma-coat about the wood stocks they were going to look at, and its still unknown time. - ill invest in a dupe ;)

you know where i can buy a whole wood stock like that? :D:cheers:
 
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Deckard said:
No problem. Here is an old failed attempt that shows the inner core (1 1/8 inch hard wood thickness btw; length is 7 1/4 inch; grip is about 3 inches). You can see how the drilling and dremel creates the rear - pretty basic.



This view shows how I tried to duplicate the front, but it got too thin and cracked.


That ruined all the work up to that point. So I made a seperate block that glues on later so I wouldn't screw up again.

Here is some more. The first one took a table saw and I painted it. The second one a scrollsaw. This stuff is addicting, so be warned.

deckstockstained.jpg


Let me know how it turns out.
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your work is verry impressive, i wish i had the time/skill to make a wooden stock so custom, and yet so glorious.....

i bet the canadian cz 858 real wooden stocks would sell like mad in canada (especially if they looked that good), everyone wants as close to the real deal as possible.
 
Thanks. I agree these take a lot of time and I usually don't do it unless I first bragged I would do it and then someone (like Curtton) bugs me enough to make me accountable.
 
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