rcbs pro 2000 or dillion 650 ??

I have an RCBS Pro 2000 and load a pile of ammo on it. I just got a Dillon 1050, so my dillon experience is based on it not a 650.

It certainly works well, and RCBS warranty is fantastic, but so is Dillons.

The Pro 2000 does not have a case feeder, a case feeder is a wonderful thing. The Pro 2000 does now have a bullet feeder available but I have not tried it yet.

My Pro 2000 is older and does not have auto index, that is something I intend to upgrade, after using the dillon 1050 auto index is a serious advantage.

As far as quality of ammo, I don't think there is anything at all wrong with either.

The primer strips for the RCBS I find faster to load then I do the primer tubes for the dillon. If you have the cash for a primer tube filler from Dillon, then I'd say the tubes would probably be faster. You can buy CCI primers already in the strips too, but I hear they are cost prohibitive, I've never seen any for sale to know.

I don't know the entire story on converting a 650, as my 1050 is my dillon experience but I can say that the 2000 is much easier. A primer size change on the rcbs is one bolt. To change what primer is in the machine, you just raise the ram and pull out the current strip, so primer changes hands down go to the RCBS. You can get tool heads for both presses. The Dillon tool head holds the powder measure, the RCBS does not. If you want to buy tool heads for every caliber ( I didn't as I reload dozens of calibers on my 2000) the Dillon will be handier as the powder measure is set up, but that's a lot of money tied up in powder measures. As far as the powder measures themselves go, I find both do a very satisfactory job.

Compared to the 1050, the caliber changes are a breeze on the 2000, and I think the 650 falls somewhere in between. Again if your running case feeders and bullet feeders, caliber conversion times go up, but so do reload rates.

With rifle rounds I probably get 300 an hour and 400 for pistol on the 2000. Thats not humping too hard, no bullet feeder, manual index, boxing up the rounds etc. The Dillon should outperform that, adding the auto index would help, as would a bullet feeder, however the Dillon can get a case feeder and bullet feeder to step it up even farther.

I look back now and after using a case feeder, wish I had gone with a 650, however I'm not disappointed enough with my decision to change. Originally I based my decision on caliber conversion times, and on that note I think the RCBS still wins.

If your plan is one or two calibers in very large quantities (1000 or more before conversions), I think the Dillon wins, if you reload a very wide variety of calibers in smaller amounts (less then 500 before conversion) the RCBS wins.

Ultimately both companies make a great product, and I don't think you will be too wrong with either.
 
I have an RCBS Pro 2000 and load a pile of ammo on it. I just got a Dillon 1050, so my dillon experience is based on it not a 650.

It certainly works well, and RCBS warranty is fantastic, but so is Dillons.

The Pro 2000 does not have a case feeder, a case feeder is a wonderful thing. The Pro 2000 does now have a bullet feeder available but I have not tried it yet.

My Pro 2000 is older and does not have auto index, that is something I intend to upgrade, after using the dillon 1050 auto index is a serious advantage.

As far as quality of ammo, I don't think there is anything at all wrong with either.

The primer strips for the RCBS I find faster to load then I do the primer tubes for the dillon. If you have the cash for a primer tube filler from Dillon, then I'd say the tubes would probably be faster. You can buy CCI primers already in the strips too, but I hear they are cost prohibitive, I've never seen any for sale to know.

I don't know the entire story on converting a 650, as my 1050 is my dillon experience but I can say that the 2000 is much easier. A primer size change on the rcbs is one bolt. To change what primer is in the machine, you just raise the ram and pull out the current strip, so primer changes hands down go to the RCBS. You can get tool heads for both presses. The Dillon tool head holds the powder measure, the RCBS does not. If you want to buy tool heads for every caliber ( I didn't as I reload dozens of calibers on my 2000) the Dillon will be handier as the powder measure is set up, but that's a lot of money tied up in powder measures. As far as the powder measures themselves go, I find both do a very satisfactory job.

Compared to the 1050, the caliber changes are a breeze on the 2000, and I think the 650 falls somewhere in between. Again if your running case feeders and bullet feeders, caliber conversion times go up, but so do reload rates.

With rifle rounds I probably get 300 an hour and 400 for pistol on the 2000. Thats not humping too hard, no bullet feeder, manual index, boxing up the rounds etc. The Dillon should outperform that, adding the auto index would help, as would a bullet feeder, however the Dillon can get a case feeder and bullet feeder to step it up even farther.

I look back now and after using a case feeder, wish I had gone with a 650, however I'm not disappointed enough with my decision to change. Originally I based my decision on caliber conversion times, and on that note I think the RCBS still wins.

If your plan is one or two calibers in very large quantities (1000 or more before conversions), I think the Dillon wins, if you reload a very wide variety of calibers in smaller amounts (less then 500 before conversion) the RCBS wins.

Ultimately both companies make a great product, and I don't think you will be too wrong with either.

well there we have it! someone who has both and is man enough to give a straight answer .
thank you scar
 
you guys are pushin that blue stuff pretty hard on here,i'm just wonderin what it would really do up against the Horandy LNL or RCBS PRO2000 with auto ,anyone have both or one of these and a blue?so we can have a real comparsion with real hands on facts.

A lot of people buy "blue" because it works, and it works great. I purchased my dillon 650 because it was the most popular (played it safe), but found out that it's popular for a good reason. Also, like I said before, the warranty is the best in the biz - "lifetime no BS warranty", something breaks and they send you a new part no charge (maybe for shipping). The customer service is excellent, for sales and technical support.

I had a Hornady LNL press but sold it because I wanted to buy more guns... :HR: stupid move. It was an excellent press, very smooth, sturdy, well built machine!

You CAN NOT go wrong with the Dillon or Hornady products.
 
Hornady LNL AP has no toolheads to change, just dies and (if) priming plate and seater. Same no-BS lifetime warranty, I think Lee is the only one nowadays who lacks lifetime warranty.
I went with Hornady; according to my numbers, it's cheaper to run multiple calibers with it than Dillon. It's easier to change calibers too. Thou, both are on par in performance.
 
comparing a RCBS 2000 to a 1050 is a no brainier, what price is a 1050, $2000+ up here ? Caliber conversions are price also, but if you have the money it is the best progressive there is, no arguing there.

Here are some pictures of mine showing the Dillon 550 beside the RCBS 2000.

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If I had the money for a 650 and case feeder and conversion kits, I would go into debt on my credit card and by a 1050 and never have any regret's.
 
I love my Dillon 650. My Brother in Law uses a Hornady Loc N Load and has no issues that I'm aware of, but I'm staying with what I have. Actually, I'm in the process of buying a second one (650).
 
sorry guys i'm green to the core and just had to rub you blue guys abit, i think the 650 or any other blue one is a nice product but just cause they have pretty girls in there book's i'm not buyin one yet:) .i know theres lots of guy's on here with dilion presses and i just wanted to see if there was anyone as passionate with there RCBS as the dilion guys are. as this thread proves they are far and in between.
thank's too all that responded.
 
I think generally asking for opinions on presses is much like asking Ford or Chev. Everyone has an opinion, but no one has put 100,000 km's on both a 2010 Chev and 2010 Ford to compare.

Especially the higher end presses, if someone buys one and it does the job, they stick with it. I think the RCBS, Dillon, and Hornady all do the job well enough most don't change. The lee's seem to get mixed reviews, many love them, but there are people who seem to change away from the lee's more then the others.

The only reason I added a Dillon on top of my RCBS was because I got a heck of a deal on a 1050.
 
you guys are pushin that blue stuff pretty hard on here,i'm just wonderin what it would really do up against the Horandy LNL or RCBS PRO2000 with auto ,anyone have both or one of these and a blue?so we can have a real comparsion with real hands on facts.

Yup, I read too much talk about the blue stuff and ended up just buying one right off the bat without ever trying to reload before. Dillon 650 is what I went for. I have nothing to compare, but I like this unit. It had it's quirks in the beginning (nothing to be that pissed off about) but it was my fault due to poor adjustments. It works great now.

As someone said already "no upgrades" from one press to another. I load 9mm, 44mag and 223. All have their own tool head. Only pain is changing from small primer to large. Cheaped out on that and for good reason... I think it's $150... But it takes about ~6mins. An excuse to clean it. Still hate it... Cost wise, too much for quick change... but I want speed. I even bought the case trimmer and works VERY WELL. Dillon Super Swage functions well too.
 
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