PLS REMOVE - What 1911 .45 should i buy? Help!

it depends how much you want to spend. and if you want new or used. the only problem with buying one 1911 is that is is not going to be your last. look at your budget and look at how much the ammo costs. look at re-loading costs. look at what you are going to use it for.

after that you may have an idea what you want.

i started with a colt...then a USGI mixmaster (for some history)...then i bought a wilson...then a kimber...then another kimber...then some new grips...then a remington...then another kimber...and now i want another...

good luck on your journey
 
graydog is right the STI series of 1911s are worth looking into. The cheapest is the spartan and the trojan. The spartan is an amazing value and it's good to go right out of the box. Plus is only $799 amazing value.
 
misanthropist said:
you may not like it but that doesn't mean it's not true...the SIG 1911s have had lots of issues which is not surprising considering they use a totally unproven extraction system and SIG has no experience building 1911s.

You are not serious?? Unproven and No experience???


Additionally, the early SIG 1911s had tons of issues sending out mismatched parts and loads of them had to be returned.

Sure...? Tons and Loads??? Reading to much internet

And it is no secret that SIG's QC department has gone to the dogs.

I never heard of any problems...you must be reading the same threads posted by the same 3 guys over and over again......

For an external-extractor 1911 from a company that doesn't build 1911s...


Of course they do, How can you say they don't build any? Building them longer than STI .
That is like someone saying STI does not build any...
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I don't understand your hate for one of the highest quality handgun manufacturers in the world
 
dinhulks said:
Hey i just visited Dlask and is this a canadian company?
Nice 1911 customs! Darn my selection just got more complicated!
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Thats what I went with over all the others.. when I get it Ill let you know what I think... with so many options do I want adjustable sights.. do I want checkering? do I want a rough finish or smooth ect.. what slide do I want what grip.. the list is endless with custom :p
 
Ok, really great feedback so far.
Now i have narrowed down my choices to:
STI...
Colt...
Kimber...
Taurus...

Also i am willing to spend can$1500 plus taxes.
I will absolutely avoid upgrading right away. I will wait 1 year b4 i will do any upgrades.
Now you might ask,
why Taurus? Solely because of it's reliability based on web feedbacks.
Colt? because of resale value if not over-tinkered.
STI? So far this is my best choice i think, again all based on web feedbacks.
Kimber? Because of the no. of options is crazy lots!

I still am waiting for any 1st hand experience on the BUL-M5 1911.

cheers.
 
rivetc78 said:
I don't understand your hate for one of the highest quality handgun manufacturers in the world
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What do you figure is the total number of SIG 1911s in circulation?

Yes, they are new to this game.

If you are unfamiliar with the 2005 on slide (maybe collapse is a better term) of SIG's QC that's not an indication it hasn't happened...

Did you not notice them trying to sue the BATF et al for placing too high a standard on "reliability" in their recent competition (I believe the largest gov't handgun contract...ever) which resulted in the SIG entrant getting tossed? Both the S&W and the Glock had no problems meeting the standard...

SIG was once a great manufacturer. Unfortunately they have really, really slid and if you don't know that, that doesn't mean it isn't true. Or does their slow march out of machined bar stock for small parts and into cast not seem meaningful? Have a look at some of the small parts they use these days...you will see casting lines on them! SIG Sauer would never have done that...that is SIG USA. Or the junk chinese red dots they stamp their name on...or the 556 with its famously wobbly furniture...

You might get a good SIG 1911...you might get a junk one. They don't QC their stuff like they used to...they don't use the parts that they used to...they don't have the staff that they used to...

It's a gamble.

To the OP - sorry for the hijack. Your best bet is the Colt or a Springfield Loaded, and after that I would probably look at the STI offerings. The Colts still use bar stock for pretty much all the small parts and the machining quality is high but they do tend to be pretty ruthless on machining sharp edges and just leaving them there.

Kimber is the company that gave birth to Ron Cohen, the guy currently killing SIG. Their rep for QC leaves a lot to be desired as well. Lots of features on a cheapish gun...that might be a good thing or it might be a red flag if you take my meaning...
 
misanthropist said:
What do you figure is the total number of SIG 1911s in circulation?

Yes, they are new to this game.

If you are unfamiliar with the 2005 on slide (maybe collapse is a better term) of SIG's QC that's not an indication it hasn't happened...

Did you not notice them trying to sue the BATF et al for placing too high a standard on "reliability" in their recent competition (I believe the largest gov't handgun contract...ever) which resulted in the SIG entrant getting tossed? Both the S&W and the Glock had no problems meeting the standard...

SIG was once a great manufacturer. Unfortunately they have really, really slid and if you don't know that, that doesn't mean it isn't true. Or does their slow march out of machined bar stock for small parts and into cast not seem meaningful? Have a look at some of the small parts they use these days...you will see casting lines on them! SIG Sauer would never have done that...that is SIG USA. Or the junk chinese red dots they stamp their name on...or the 556 with its famously wobbly furniture...

You might get a good SIG 1911...you might get a junk one. They don't QC their stuff like they used to...they don't use the parts that they used to...they don't have the staff that they used to...

It's a gamble.

To the OP - sorry for the hijack. Your best bet is the Colt or a Springfield Loaded, and after that I would probably look at the STI offerings. The Colts still use bar stock for pretty much all the small parts and the machining quality is high but they do tend to be pretty ruthless on machining sharp edges and just leaving them there.

Kimber is the company that gave birth to Ron Cohen, the guy currently killing SIG. Their rep for QC leaves a lot to be desired as well. Lots of features on a cheapish gun...that might be a good thing or it might be a red flag if you take my meaning...
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Reading stuff on the internet is one thing, shooting, handling and having one is different
 
dinhulks said:
Ok, really great feedback so far.
Now i have narrowed down my choices to:
STI...
Colt...
Kimber...
Taurus...

Also i am willing to spend can$1500 plus taxes.
I will absolutely avoid upgrading right away. I will wait 1 year b4 i will do any upgrades.
Now you might ask,
why Taurus? Solely because of it's reliability based on web feedbacks.
Colt? because of resale value if not over-tinkered.
STI? So far this is my best choice i think, again all based on web feedbacks.
Kimber? Because of the no. of options is crazy lots!

I still am waiting for any 1st hand experience on the BUL-M5 1911.

cheers.
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My opinion is biased because we sell Dan Wesson, but you really should consider them among your choices.
You can get a Dan Wesson Heritage 45 for well under $1500 or you can scrounge a few hundred more for a valor.
 
I owned a Colt 70 series Gold Cup from 1982 to 2002. The gun was customized by DLASK. I loved the gun and loved the work by DLASK. I sold it to a serious IPSC shooter and now own a 1911 stock gun. Would love to have my colt back.
 
I can tell you with no doubt in my mind, the Sig 1911 is the finest put together production 1911, period.

It has a unique design with extreme quality. Early Sig 1911's had their issues but they have been worked out.

External extractors are not a new design, just "new" to the 1911. Sig has just a little bit of experience. The 1911's are no longer labled Sig Arms, but Sig Sauer(Barrel still retains SigArms) fit and finish is flawless.

These guns are very tight and do need a bit of break-in and some people can't accept that... I can understand that, but I personally prefer to have something get broken in properly. I'm breaking my Sig 1911 in by hand before the first live round goes through it. Then it will see a "torture" test of somewhere from 500 to 1000 handloaded rounds in one range visit.

More pictures are coming after I take it to the range.

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Kodiak Outpost said:
My opinion is biased because we sell Dan Wesson, but you really should consider them among your choices.
You can get a Dan Wesson Heritage 45 for well under $1500 or you can scrounge a few hundred more for a valor.
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I have to agree...especially if you are already considering $1500. I just bought your Dan Wesson Valor V-Bob....and it is a very fine pistol. Accurate and beautiful.. If I were looking for a 5" Govt 1911 I would snap up the one you have for sale too !
 
I have a half dozen 1911's. Four of them are Colts, and the other two are a Colt/Norc hybrid and a Colt/Auto Ordnance hybrid. I'd vote for Colt if you are going to have just one. Last time I was stateside (a few weeks ago) I got to try one of the new Remington 1911's, and based on that I'll probably buy one when they show up here, if they're reasonable money with our dollar at par. - dan
 
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