Lost and back again

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So yesterday I took out a friend of a friend who I've been acquainted with for some time. I know his father quite well from way back. He's suggested to me that we go whitetail hunting before and has waxed on and on about it since I said it might be okay to join me some time.

He's always insinuated to me that he's "not a novice" hunter. He's new to the province though and doesn't know anyone else here who hunts. I have taken him out shooting before and was impressed with his shooting skills.

So I took him here:
ht tp://maps.google.ca/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=zhoda&sll=49.891235,-97.15369&sspn=52.653769,105.732422&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Zhoda,+Division+No.+2,+Manitoba&ll=49.278417,-96.389709&spn=0.025841,0.051627&t=h&z=15

We got setup to go out for the evening, planning to be back around 7 or so. I thought it would be a good opportunity to walk the trail with him, look for signs and get an idea of his outdoors skills. I've spent a lot of time in this area and know the layout near the trail quite well. He didn't. I had sent him the above link and pointed out where we'd park so he could study it and get some idea of the layout as well. Sunday night was full overcast with moderate fog beginning around 6.

We walked in about 300m down the trail and I suggested we check out the clearings on either side of the main trail to see if there were any deer bedded down. He didn't have a pair of binoculars, so I went east where there is more understory and the clearing is a little longer. He was to head west, look for deer and meet me up the trail 20 minutes later.

3 Hours later (an hour after sunset), using my doe call as a signaling device, I found him 500m west of the trail on the far side of some old-growth blown down and partially flooded pine. Turns out he decided it would be a great idea to flock off into the bush with no compass, no map, (and no clue) on an overcast day... He was soaked to just below his waist from having waded in boggy muck. Lucky for him he was dressed appropriately.

As we started back, I got the full story from him. He had headed off into the bush because it "looked good" and it "looked dry on the map".

After he hit the bog, he realized he was going the wrong directions (presumably, he tried all of them). It turns out that he was in a completely different part of the WMA than he realized and he had been walking through the pines for an hour and a half in circles trying to find his way out.

He's the type of person with self-perpetuating rage if that makes sense at all. I'm sure we all know someone like this. Every branch in the face led to a fit of swearing, cursing and crashing around. He managed to rip off his blaze vest and face mask, lose my rattle bag, drop his gun in the mud (which he insisted on keeping loaded - in case of bears no doubt), and stomp through water instead of picking his way through the high ground - leading to tripping and additional rage. At several points I was very close to knocking him out and dragging him back by his hair because he simply refused to calm down and shut up. He also kept insisting that I was lost too and tried to inject directions that were completely non-helpful (like heading for the road when that led through the swamp and there was a perfectly good trail 90 degrees to the left of that direction).

It was nerve wracking for me and him. Finally, after ~3 hours of searching and 1.5 of rescue (which included humoring him by proving that west just lead to the bog and then backtracking) we eventually got back to the trail. At this point I was starting to get a little cold from the fog and from having sweated but he was shaking and obviously hypothermic. I had been trying to keep us moving to keep him warm, but to reassure him that we weren't getting more lost we stopped repeatedly so I could listen for the highway and he could smoke. Eventually, we made it to a clearing that I recognized and we headed straight for the trail and then to the truck to warm up.

So what are your experiences getting lost in the woods? Ever head off into unknown bush on a foggy overcast night? Through flooded blowdown? Probably not. Personally, I wouldn't have tried that on a clear day given the choice! I've never been so lost I didn't know how to find "something" that I could use to get home - even if it was a "long way." The psychological effect was pretty powerful. Even with me there to reassure him, he was completely irrational and willing to take some serious risks. Near the end, he started talking about random directions as North and East as though he was completely sure where he was oriented. Even I didn't know from time to time, but I knew that if I headed to the tree I'd spotted 15 minutes ago, I could reorient from there.

Needless to say I have some idea of his woodsmanship skills now...
 
Sounds like a good trip. Bet you he will never go again. It is an awesome feeling being completely lost, its like a drug to me that feeling. Try not to get mad at him though, maybe he just needs someone to teach him bushcraft, unless he is the know it all type which it sounds like.
 
Close call - Good thing you had your wits about you. People don't realize how fast things can go from good to really bad in the woods.

I never venture into that kind of terrain without a compass, a map, GPS, extra batteries, 2 lighters, matches and a whistle (as a minimum). I also know how to use these items.

I got lost (mildly) once and vowed to be more prepared from that point on. I don't plan on being "that guy" you hear about on the radio who died overnight in the woods while on a hunting trip. You hear about one at least every year.
 
Was the fellow from BC?

I am originally from BC and have accumulated months worth of time in the bush there. I had never been more than mildly lost. Out here on the prairies though I have to be very aware in the evenings/ mornings when it is overcast. Even on sunny days I have gotten turned around pretty bad. The relative flat has a strange effect for those not used to it.

The guy you were with sounds like a douche however.
 
Sounds like your "buddy" was pita and not worth going out with again. I know the area well and appreciate how relatively easy it is to loose orientation and how miserable you may have been.

On the lighter side how was the deer activity? I was hunting about 20 minutes due south of your position on the same day. Found the fog and humidity bone chilling and not much deer action. Found an elk cow but as you know there is no season for elk in those parts unless your aboriginal. A friend mentioned someone spotted a moose near Vita, again nothing a guy can actually hunt.
 
Deer activity is decent but they seem on edge. On rememberance day there was a lot of road hunting going on. I've been casing one particular buck for a long time. No sign of him last night, but I saw a couple of his girlfriends. Unfortunately, I wasn't entirely focused on the deer ;-)

My buddy had good intentions but his personality isn't the sort that makes it easy in the woods. He's a bit of a bulldozer. I was just joking with a coworker that if I ever take him out again, I should just spray him down with buck urine and strap a pair of antlers to his head. We have no doubt he could wrestle his trophy into submission...
 
The deer are definetely on edge, the road hunting is way worse than I recall in the longest time. I will speculate this as a result of the decent weather leading up to rifle season.

Nonetheless, my trail cams show the deer going nocturnal, with nominal dawn and dusk activity. They are waiting until way past sunset to move and heading back to bed allot later in the morning. Seems like there are very limited easy shot opportunities at the moment, you pretty much have to beat the bush and come up on them bedding.
 
I know a guy that got lost in the bush before for almost a full night. When they found him he walked miles THE WRONG WAY, lost his gun, his coat, his hat and he was in sheer panic mode. He must of ran the entire time, he was so out of it when they found him he could barely talk, lucky to be alive really.
 
Was the fellow from BC?

I am originally from BC and have accumulated months worth of time in the bush there. I had never been more than mildly lost. Out here on the prairies though I have to be very aware in the evenings/ mornings when it is overcast. Even on sunny days I have gotten turned around pretty bad. The relative flat has a strange effect for those not used to it.

The guy you were with sounds like a douche however.

Same problem - I get into wide open flat expanses with no visible mountains and my neck hair will stand on end every so often. Heck, some parts of the interior even do that to me - IE lodgepole pine forests.



Personally if I know an area and someone is being an egotistical fool and refuses to go in the right direction I'll leave them to stew while I find and confirm the right direction. Only time I won't leave them is if they're too tired/cold to fight, in which case they go my direction anyways:p

Fortunately it seldom happens though (me being sure enough of myself to do that, and having to share company with someone that egotistical)
 
I have been turned around in the bush. I now carry 3 compasses, one to break the tie...:D

If you have matches and start a big enough fire, someone will find you.:)
 
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