So at the range today, some friends show up, unload visit for a while then reload and point the gun down range and chamber a round and BAM! Holy Crap, The minute the bolt was locked into position the gun went off. New Anschutz 1770 model .223, obviously mechanical malfunction as my finger was no where near the trigger not even on the trigger guard. I share this as its hunting season, and mechanical failures can happen. Gun is getting sent off for inspection as I won't tolerate this kind of behavior but folks please remember to keep your muzzle pointed in a safe direction when chambering a round. It could have been ugly, lets say I am in the truck hunting coyotes see one, chamber a round before jumping out of the truck to shoot and bam. Not saying its right to do that but I know guys do it, just know that even good equipment fails. This is no cheap rifle. 2400 plus dollars, accurate as hell but misfired. Thank God I teach my boys rifle safetly and practice it myself, the range was loaded with folks and things could have been really bad.
Accidental Discharge
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Roughneck12
Regular
- Location
- Blackfalds AB
Thanks for letting everyone know. Its not just Rem 700 that have NDs' and we should all practice safe fire arms practices.
Big_red_truck
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- Labrador , the big land
well done , safety goes a long ways. Sorry to hear about your your little incident. Hope your rifle gets fixed.
say it isnt so !
Was it a one time deal then?
you contacting the dealership that sold it to you?
Obviously the 10 Commandments of Gun Safety played an important role today.
Rob
It was a one time deal, there were 5 of us around the table. we decided to try and reproduce the scenerio a second time ie shoot then cool down barrel for the same amount of time, same amount of bullets in mag, same gun position when cocking etc etc and it didn't happen. First and only time its happened with the rifle. Emailed the dealer from the range and emailed the manufacturer when I got home. Yes the 10 commandments of gun safety played a great role today
hvmetalhead
Regular
- Location
- St. Paul AB
I have never had one of a moderen gun but on my old Win. 96 .22 if i do a lot of shooting on a warm day. and i start cycling the bolt quickly/slamming it home hard, i will some time discharge.
I've had an SKS empty the mag as soon as I dropped the slide...Scary, but down range and no injury or damage. Got it fixed right away, firing pin was seized in the bolt. Know of another guy that did the same thing, but he was pointing his at his truck. Only hit the truck 3 out 5, two went through the already shot out windows! Always have to be safe, could happen at anytime.
What is the Trigger Pull measured at?
The Anschutz website stated that it should be from 2.4 to 4 lb. If it is measured at a lot lower than specified trigger pull, it is possible that an aggressive chambering action could inadvertently cause the action to fire.
I've heard people call it the 'Slam Fire' check for those firearms that have trigger pulls less than 1.5 lbs. With the firearm unloaded, aggressively conduct a chambering action of the firearm with no ammunition. Then try and fire the action. If the action is already fired, then it really needs to be sent to an armorer or the manufacture for repair.
My 2 cents!
The Anschutz website stated that it should be from 2.4 to 4 lb. If it is measured at a lot lower than specified trigger pull, it is possible that an aggressive chambering action could inadvertently cause the action to fire.
I've heard people call it the 'Slam Fire' check for those firearms that have trigger pulls less than 1.5 lbs. With the firearm unloaded, aggressively conduct a chambering action of the firearm with no ammunition. Then try and fire the action. If the action is already fired, then it really needs to be sent to an armorer or the manufacture for repair.
My 2 cents!
Navalsniper and Wade, no one has messed with the trigger. I don't have a guage to measure trigger pull simply firing as it came, after its cursory cleaning. I can fully understand a slam fire but that was not the case, the way the bolt was closed would not have engaged even a 2 ounce trigger. The trigger has not been messed with at all. It will go back to anschutz. there are less than 10 of these in the country don't want anyone less than an expert messing with it at all, no 'expert' gun smith has seen one yet. This was anschutz's first line of new design rifles I am most certain the factory will want to go over it with a fine tooth comb. Just waiting for their intstructions on what to do, but won't be taking the gun out ever until the designers and engineers have looked at it.
I was with 5 guys, all fine riflemen and we tried to reproduce the misfire, set up the same temp conditions of gun etc etc etc and nothing. tired slam firing nothing. so something in the trigger simply let go, may never happen again but may, so no way in hell I am willing to take the chance.
Anschutz recently designed a whole new line of rifles this being the first, in fact this is 1/12 twist, they have since changed to 1/9 twist in the 223 ( can no longer get the 1/12), so it was one of the very first of their (heavy rifles) to be released, Anschutz NEEDS to get the rifle back, and hopefully fast, its packed and ready to send.
I was with 5 guys, all fine riflemen and we tried to reproduce the misfire, set up the same temp conditions of gun etc etc etc and nothing. tired slam firing nothing. so something in the trigger simply let go, may never happen again but may, so no way in hell I am willing to take the chance.
Anschutz recently designed a whole new line of rifles this being the first, in fact this is 1/12 twist, they have since changed to 1/9 twist in the 223 ( can no longer get the 1/12), so it was one of the very first of their (heavy rifles) to be released, Anschutz NEEDS to get the rifle back, and hopefully fast, its packed and ready to send.
- Location
- Ft. Mac. Alberta
Chances are it is no more than a piece of something that got cought in the rigger mechanism or something simple like that .
I doubt if it will go all the way back to Germany , but will get checked and serviced here by their warranty depot.
If it does, great, but I wouldn't sweat it if a qualified gunsmith who is well versed in Anschutz rifles looked at it in this country - there are more than a few of them......
Cat
cat, you hit the nail on the head "chances are" and for me I simply don't take chances, you should be able to bang this thing against a tree when cocked and crud or no crud it should not go off, it simply needs to go back to germany, not to some local smith who has never seen the platform before. I am not cavelier about accidental discharges, somehting malfunctioned inside the trigger group and the engineers need to take a look at it, since its a new gun. remember the SR9 recall? who knows, this may be in that group, there are so few of these out there it may be a big problem that has yet to be discovered???? no chances taken here sir, with all due respect.
It happens. Can happen with any gun. Hence the "watch where you point it rule". There's only two kinds of shooters, those who have had AD's, and those who haven't, yet. - dan
dan, it is a good lesson when things go well, but again, its not something I expect or accept from a rifle that was designed so this will NEVER happen. I simply don't accept it, but believe me always be even more conscious of the muzzle direction and not load until its on target or very near. If one accepts any gun can AD then all Semis should really be unloaded after they are relaoded especially all the 10/22's in the gopher patch, which is not realistic. which brings me back to the the point that this should NEVER happen from any gun that is in proper functtioning condition and well maintained. I can expect it from a relic or 100 year old gun that has been abused but not a new 'well made' rifle. It happens doesn't work for me.
- Location
- Ft. Mac. Alberta
I am not suggesting that you are not a careful shooter, what I am sayimng is that there are qualified gunsmiths that do the warranty work for Anschutz in Canada and the U.S. and that it will not likely go back to Germany, because if something did in fact malfunction , that an Anschutz qualified gunsmith can look at it and tell if in faxt it was the trigger.
However, if you tried to replicate the incident and could not, I doubt of they will find anything , even if the rifle does go all the way back to the factory.
Cat
