i read here about a bolt action mag that might fit in the m14 and got to thinking how hard would it be to rework a m14 to take mags from a bolt action like the BAS-K ?? to my understanding u cant modify the mag in anyway but what is the legel end to modifying the gun to except the mag??
bolt action mags in a m14
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Savage wants $113US for a magazine. A 10 round Savage mag will still have to be pinned to 5 to get it into Canada. Larger than 5 round mags are prohibited devices all by themselves.
Marstar wants $19.95Cdn for a 5 round M1A/M305 mag. $35 for a pinned 20 round mag.
Marstar wants $19.95Cdn for a 5 round M1A/M305 mag. $35 for a pinned 20 round mag.
No, no they aren't. Where the hell do you come up with this BS?
"Designed For" is key I think
I get confused here too, but I am almost certain that ALL magazines designed for a semi-auto (I call a semi-loader) , that is not a rimfire, are illegal unless exempt.
Therefore, if you get a 30 round magazine from a bolt action, it is legal because it is designed for that bolt action... and if it fits, feeds and works right in a M14 that doesn't make it illegal in the M14.
The problem is all those that try to find such "mythical" mags from bolt actions that fit semi-loaders... and some LEO that sees a semi-loader with a 30 round mag and loads his/her pants arresting you.
I get confused here too, but I am almost certain that ALL magazines designed for a semi-auto (I call a semi-loader) , that is not a rimfire, are illegal unless exempt.
Therefore, if you get a 30 round magazine from a bolt action, it is legal because it is designed for that bolt action... and if it fits, feeds and works right in a M14 that doesn't make it illegal in the M14.
The problem is all those that try to find such "mythical" mags from bolt actions that fit semi-loaders... and some LEO that sees a semi-loader with a 30 round mag and loads his/her pants arresting you.
I will answer to the best of my knowledge.
We are allowed 10 round "Pistol" magazines for our AR-15's, seeing as they are specifically designed and marked for an AR-15 Pistol.
Now, bolt action rifles have no magazine capacity limit as per Canadian Law.
The magazines in question are specifically designed and marked to hold 10 or 20 rounds and fit in the AIA Enfield that is chambered in .308. As they are designed and marked to fit in a Bolt action rifle, not a semi auto, they are not pinned.
It is not the firearm you use it in, but the firearm it was designed for. Using your logic the LAR-15 magazines would be prohibited as well.
As far as I know, these magazines are being tested by the RCMP currently, and are expected to pass as they follow all legal requirements for a bolt action rifle magazine.
Correct me if I am horribly mistaken, but I think I am on the right track.
You clearly have not...
Magazines designed for centerfire semi-automatic rifles/shotguns are limited to 5 rounds.
The Savage rifle referred to is a a bolt action and not limited to 5.
to add, the AIA mags are not M14 mags, they are proprietary. They made a small change that physically seperates it from an M14 mag. I beleive they dont have a hole that the M14 mags do. And also, the Lee Enfield is in the same historical firearm boat as the M1, even though its a redundant addition to the firearms act, they are listed as exempt from magazine capacity limits. Meaning the AIA .308 mags are for a bolt action rifle that is specifically exempt from magazine capacity BY CANADIAN LAW! I always chuckle when I hear stories about people shooting themselves in the foot, but when the government does it...I laugh out loud! Lock N Load boys an girls, uncle gubbyment said its ok 
How dare you question someone with over 13 THOUSAND posts and no trader rating
Obviously Sunray has been waaaay to busy typing out posts to ever actually have the time to read the scores of times the law has been accurately stated on this forum. Sorry Sunray - just teasing ya
Click on this link if you are wondering about the AIA mag's working in an M14 platform;
http://s38.photobucket.com/albums/e...ilds/?action=view¤t=LRBtestdrive008.mp4
Note this mag does not work in every M14 rifle as it does not have the mag retention whole located at the top of the magazine. Hence some times it fall out of the mag well.
Also the Doc should have payed the camera man danger fee for all the spent brass he ate for him on that day
http://s38.photobucket.com/albums/e...ilds/?action=view¤t=LRBtestdrive008.mp4
Note this mag does not work in every M14 rifle as it does not have the mag retention whole located at the top of the magazine. Hence some times it fall out of the mag well.
Also the Doc should have payed the camera man danger fee for all the spent brass he ate for him on that day
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to add, the AIA mags are not M14 mags, they are proprietary. They made a small change that physically seperates it from an M14 mag. I beleive they dont have a hole that the M14 mags do. And also, the Lee Enfield is in the same historical firearm boat as the M1, even though its a redundant addition to the firearms act, they are listed as exempt from magazine capacity limits. Meaning the AIA .308 mags are for a bolt action rifle that is specifically exempt from magazine capacity BY CANADIAN LAW! I always chuckle when I hear stories about people shooting themselves in the foot, but when the government does it...I laugh out loud! Lock N Load boys an girls, uncle gubbyment said its ok
The Lee Enfield doesn't even need to be exempted. It is a BOLT ACTION, the M1 Garand is a Semi Auto using en bloc clips that are specifically exempted.
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I know it is exempted but why?
ii. Is a rifle of the type commonly known as the “Lee Enfield” rifle,
where the magazine is capable of containing not more than 10
cartridges of the type for which the magazines was originally designed, or
Does that mean that a Lee Enfield magazine that holds greater than 10 is prohibited?
ii. Is a rifle of the type commonly known as the “Lee Enfield” rifle,
where the magazine is capable of containing not more than 10
cartridges of the type for which the magazines was originally designed, or
Does that mean that a Lee Enfield magazine that holds greater than 10 is prohibited?
No, there was a full auto prototype that used Lee Enfield mags. I think they were all destroyed at the end of the trial, but that's the reason for the exemption.
Sounds like you're thinking of the Charlton Conversion. This was a fully automatic firearm converted in New Zealand from a No1 Mark III Lee-Enfield rifle. New Zealand did this because there was one hell of a shortage of BREN guns at the time.
The conversion could use either the 10 round Lee-Enfield mags or a 30 round mag designed specifically for the conversion.
