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looking at building my first gun its going to be a 7mm rum or 7mm saum i was wondering what action choices i would have, looking to be a little on the cheap side.
 
really no reason i just like the 7mm bullet and a friend has 7mm rum and its awsome he suggested i build a 7mm saum if i were to get a 7mm, gun will used for target shooting more then anything would like to shoot long range with it.
 
7mm RUM is a poor choice for a target rifle. The reason for this is it burns barrels VERY fast. A 7mm SAUM on the other hand could work very well for both targets and game.

Look for a 700 donor action, strip barrel and stock if need be and build from there.
 
I also really like the 7mm bullet selection which is why I have both a 7mm-08 and a 7mm RUM.

I've been hunting with my 7mm-08 for a couple years now and it's never failed to drop deer when I do my part.

I also got my first 2 kills on my 7mm RUM this year so I was excited with that.

The gun is sighted for 300 yards and shoots like a laserbeam.

First doe I shot this year, approx 325ish yards. Put the crosshairs in the kills zone, and she dropped.

My buddy shot a big mule buck but didnt put it down. We waited 45 min for it to drop but it just stood there. He was shaking from all the excitement so he let me take the finishing shot on it. Again, 350 yards, crosshairs on the kill zone, BAM! Deer took one step and fell over dead.

I think the RUMs have their purpose but definately not for short range action. I'd be a bit concerned if I was forced to shoot a deer at 75 yards with it.
 
looking to be a little on the cheap side.

I think the 7mm Rem Mag would be a better choice for a cheaper build and cheaper shooting at long range. (Over 600 yards)

A Remington 700 action of course...
 

I know this isnt the hunting forum but this it the deer I was refering to. My friend shot it with a 30-06 from about 500 yards. With the wind drift, he didnt make a clean kill. The deer was obviously hit so we just waited patiently for it to bed down.

After 45 min we gave up on the waiting and I got to plug another shot into it.

The 7mm RUM dropped it in its tracks. Here is a picture of my friend with his deer.

Dennis2010buck.jpg
 
I know this isnt the hunting forum but this it the deer I was refering to. My friend shot it with a 30-06 from about 500 yards. With the wind drift, he didnt make a clean kill. The deer was obviously hit so we just waited patiently for it to bed down.

After 45 min we gave up on the waiting and I got to plug another shot into it.

The 7mm RUM dropped it in its tracks. Here is a picture of my friend with his deer.

Dennis2010buck.jpg

That's a beautiful deer. I certainly wasn't suggesting you were story-telling...from the details you gave I visualized this big Muley buck getting whacked and just standing there teetering for 45 mins. :p Any deer I've hit or seen hit either drops on the spot or takes-off like it's on fire for 50 yards till it hits the brick-wall!
 
It seems the Remington short mags are fading and the WSM's are still selling well. I'd be tempted to go with the WSM for future availability. Just my .02
 
That's a beautiful deer. I certainly wasn't suggesting you were story-telling...from the details you gave I visualized this big Muley buck getting whacked and just standing there teetering for 45 mins. :p Any deer I've hit or seen hit either drops on the spot or takes-off like it's on fire for 50 yards till it hits the brick-wall!

It was the strangest thing. After the initial shot, it walked about 20 feet into some short brush and just stood there. We watched it for 45 min hoping it would bed down. It was obviously hit because it didnt run. My friends son walked along the top of the coulee (still 400+ yards) away and you could watch the deer move its head and follow him.

My friend (in the picture) was so excited about his deer that he was till shaking after 45 min and didnt think he was steady enough to try putting a final shot into it.

I got to put the last shot into it but it's certainly "his" deer.
 
i like to be different and was thinking to go a different action then a 700 but what option do i have, would a stevens 200 action work i can pick one right now for about 150, would like to see all my options before i decide.
 
i like to be different and was thinking to go a different action then a 700 but what option do i have, would a stevens 200 action work i can pick one right now for about 150, would like to see all my options before i decide.

You can get parts for that action, lots of guys like them. Mysticplayer has info and parts for them and others
 
Look into the cost and availability of ammo and brass, for either, locally, first.
"...Stevens 200 action..." Have to be a long, magnum action.
 
looking to be a little on the cheap side.

I think the 7mm Rem Mag would be a better choice for a cheaper build and cheaper shooting at long range. (Over 600 yards)

A Remington 700 action of course...
x2!

Used rifles in 7mag are easy to find. Lots of dies & brass. Tons of factory ammo. Easy to shoot and accurate.

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so a stevens action is a no go?

The stevens action will work just fine. There are two versions of the stevens action - long and short. The donor rifle needs to be a long action (magnum caliber) rifle.

The stevens action is fine for long range and arguably easier to tighten up than a 700. After a lot of gunsmithing on both actions, you can ultimately get better groups out of a 700, but none but the best long range shooters doing F-class type work will notice the difference. Many competative long range shooters have used the stevens action.
 
Ultimately your choice should be determined by what you will use it for. 7 RSAUM are done at 750-800 rounds, at least from a precision perspective. You'll get adequate hunting performance a bit longer than than, but not much.

Do you reload?

The 7RM is as bad or worse and uses ore powder.

Seriously, I would simply suggest buding a quality 308 if you want a heavy hitter, or if you really want a magnum, go with a 300 WSM. Better barrel life, far better selection of good bullets and terminal performance as good as a 7. Also easier to make work well if you reload.

If you want to have something "built" why go with cheap junk? Why not do it right the first time, or simply buy a factory rifle?
 
It was the strangest thing. After the initial shot, it walked about 20 feet into some short brush and just stood there. We watched it for 45 min hoping it would bed down. It was obviously hit because it didnt run. My friends son walked along the top of the coulee (still 400+ yards) away and you could watch the deer move its head and follow him.

My friend (in the picture) was so excited about his deer that he was till shaking after 45 min and didnt think he was steady enough to try putting a final shot into it.

I got to put the last shot into it but it's certainly "his" deer.

So did the post mortum show where Buddy hit? Recover any bullets? What loads were used, factory or handloads?

Avid shooters want to know. :D
 
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