What would you get? Tavor or XCR?

I want to get an XCR to have a non-restricted black rifle in 6.8SPC for hunting. And have the .223 or 7.62 kit for cheaper volume practice. Two calibers for same price as one Tavor.

I just think that would be swell. My opinion is probably mostly useless though because I've fired neither.
 
As much as I find bullpups fascinating, I still go by the old Rifleman statute. If it can't equip a bayonet, it ain't my kind of rifle.

I wanted to get a Type 97 until that bulls**t fiasco, so I settled for what I knew and was proficient with already. And could attach a bayonet. An AR variant!
 
I love the balance of the Tavor, and how compact it is. Unfortunately, I prefer the trigger, the ergonomics, the rails, the BUIS, the maintenance (I've cleaned mine twice in 2000 rounds), the ability to change buttstocks, calibre options, and grip options on the XCR.
 
I own a Tavor, and the trigger is so awful that I would rather beat up a kitten then squeeze that round off.


That rifle gets used far more by my father then by me. I will stick to my P90 for bulpup fun.








(By the way, I was kidding about the whole beating up kittens part. It is a bad trigger though)
 
Love the Tavor. Ergonomic are excellent once you use the shooting hand thumb technique for dropping the mag. The gas in the face has disappeared on mine. You get a few at the beginning but that's it.. Fantastic for shooting off hand. The trigger is heavy but mine still shoots well without the one spring trick.

The XCR. Well... Not a fan. I checked one out. I didn't like the fit/finish, hated the stock and was surprised to see the AR safety problem (Can't engage it until the bolt is brought back). The Tavor doesn't have this issue. I don't mind the heavier barrel. I actually like that. The trigger was decent. It just didn't seem like the fit/finish was up to snuff, and the design didn't do anything for me. With the $2500 price tag, there are other options such as the Tavor (If you sell the optic it's almost the same price), or $500 more for the Swiss Arms.

As for the caliber switching. I could care less about that. I don't like screwing around with that stuff. Even with the AR I prefer just to have a dedicated lower per upper. I feel this feature is a lot like the computer that you buy which can be upgraded later!! Later it's better to just buy a new computer. Same thing with these rifles. I'd rather just have another one than be monkeying around changing things up.

Waiting for the Kel-Tec RFB :).
 
I won't be of much help, I have two XCR and a tavor, they are all quite fun. What I don't like about them: XCR are really front heavy (especially the 7,62), tavor's trigger is a nightmare. So if you need a gun to move around for fun I d rather have a tavor, for range fun I d go for the XCR. But I m just a newbie so...
 
bilkathegerman said:
What I don't like about them: XCR are really front heavy (especially the 7,62), tavor's trigger is a nightmare.
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I was convinced every canadian barrel have the same diameter. Depending on bore diameter, the heaviest barrel would be .223. I also perceived my x39 barrel as lighter than the 6.8.
 
Still own both rifles, depending what you are going to do with it, if you plan to hunt the limitation of a .223 is pretty much self evident, the availability of a heavier caliber in the XCR is the way to go.

if you are looking for a range gun, Tavor's ergonomic is the hands down winner, but that is the only thing it has going for it. Than again if will never go beyond the fence of the shooing range, an AR at the half the price is still the way to go.
 
wildphil24 said:
I was convinced every canadian barrel have the same diameter. Depending on bore diameter, the heaviest barrel would be .223. I also perceived my x39 barrel as lighter than the 6.8.
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yeap, 7.62 X 39 with a bore of .311 has the least amount of weight of the three barrels.
 
hbean said:
Still own both rifles, depending what you are going to do with it, if you plan to hunt the limitation of a .223 is pretty much self evident, the availability of a heavier caliber in the XCR is the way to go.

if you are looking for a range gun, Tavor's ergonomic is the hands down winner, but that is the only thing it has going for it. Than again if will never go beyond the fence of the shooing range, an AR at the half the price is still the way to go.
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Well put, I have both and as much as I like my Tavor it's just an expensive range toy(not that I'm complaining);)

You can mod the XCR close to what you can do to an AR, you can't do near that with the Tavor.
 
Desertrat said:
Well put, I have both and as much as I like my Tavor it's just an expensive range toy(not that I'm complaining);)

You can mod the XCR close to what you can do to an AR, you can't do near that with the Tavor.
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Range toy? How do you figure?
 
My first vote would go to Swiss Arms, if it were an option, but of the two you mentioned, I'd go with the Tavor. Canada Ammo backs up his products and love it or hate it, the Tavor is built to serve as an actual combat rifle. The XCR remains the almost-ran, bridesmaid in that department.

Also, I try to avoid any rifle that requires 200+ rounds of factory ammo to 'break it in' before I can expect reliable functioning, and I also avoid any factory rifle that requires me to loc-tite parts to keep them from falling off.

Getting to be a 'Beta' tester for Rob Arms' previous rifle, the M-96, and like so many others, drawn in by the promise of a top mag feed for the same (which never materialized) and then finding the company totally dropping the rifle model and their owners, left a sour taste in my mouth.

Added to that the recent rant by Rob Arms president, Alex Robinson, making the Internet forum rounds and I'd avoid the XCR like the plague.
 
X-man said:
My first vote would go to Swiss Arms, if it were an option, but of the two you mentioned, I'd go with the Tavor. Canada Ammo backs up his products and love it or hate it, the Tavor is built to serve as an actual combat rifle. The XCR remains the almost-ran, bridesmaid in that department.

Also, I try to avoid any rifle that requires 200+ rounds of factory ammo to 'break it in' before I can expect reliable functioning, and I also avoid any factory rifle that requires me to loc-tite parts to keep them from falling off.

Getting to be a 'Beta' tester for Rob Arms' previous rifle, the M-96, and like so many others, drawn in by the promise of a top mag feed for the same (which never materialized) and then finding the company totally dropping the rifle model and their owners, left a sour taste in my mouth.

Added to that the recent rant by Rob Arms president, Alex Robinson, making the Internet forum rounds and I'd avoid the XCR like the plague.
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:agree:
Couldn't have said it better myself.
 
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