I have one...I pinned it myself, it works well, if Im gentle as all hell. I wouldn't recommend using them on a chilly day or anything around/below freezing. It was free so it it breaks, I cannot complain. I bought a few Pmag...wow nicest mags I own.
C7 Plastic Mags?
- Thread starter y2k
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Awwww those horrible thermomold plastic mags. The modern equivelant to the Ross rifle with all its well noted shortcomings. Why I am responding to this thread is a couple of fellows have stated the thermo molds where to be issusd "loaded" and ready to go. To that I can only say Bullsh*t. Are we going to believe someones going to stuff thirty rounds in the mag at the IVI factory, then the mags going to sit in storage for umpteen years, then be issued and expected to work? Would you, as the reciever of said "preloaded" mag even trust the damn thing was load right (pointy ends forward) and be bombed up to what you the end user needs for your mission. This "preloaded" mag crap always comes up every so often and (I had heard this nonsense way back in the 70/80s about Americans and their M16s), and while it may have been trialed or talked about is never anything I EVER saw actually happen. And if I was going out the door and someone handed me a mitt full of "preloaded" mags I sure as hell would unload and reload regardless if plastic, aluminum or steel construction.
Lessons learned from the first rotations to Afghanistan was the issue of five mags and a bandolier was a non starter, now its 10+ fully loaded (as a CF retiree I stay in close touch and do like talking shop when in touch with my peers still serving re. my refering to Afghanistan)
Lessons learned from the first rotations to Afghanistan was the issue of five mags and a bandolier was a non starter, now its 10+ fully loaded (as a CF retiree I stay in close touch and do like talking shop when in touch with my peers still serving re. my refering to Afghanistan)
It's not a myth. They can function a decade later, but I would unload and make sure moisture had not slightly corroded the metal, partially fusing rounds here and there. Thermolds loaded for a decade, however, would be a disaster.
Ok so beyond saying, its not a myth, what insight can you throw into the discussion regarding the "preloaded" mag silliness? Besides not 100% not knowing WHATS in a "preloaded" mag regarding both ammo type and amount of rounds actually loaded. There comes a point that after you supposedly burn through your basic carry that you have to start loading mags up again, this nonsense of fire it empty and then step on it to deny its use by the EN is just beyond belief. Are we to believe that somehow more of these magical "preloaded" mags are going to appear before you? all loaded and ready for the user to fire off, then discard and repeat process....Hey no doubt greater minds then mine (of which there are many) may have dreamed this up in a perfect world such as a leisurely day at the SA ranges plinking away and "may" have even trialed it. But its real pie in the sky stuff.
The originals were such crap that we used to buy US issue mags at a local surplus store in Freddytown. Of course, we weren't supposed to, but the DS on the courses would nod and wink. The only time you had the plastic mags in your webbing was when we were in garrison. Out on a field ex, many had the metal mags.
JimboJones
CGN frequent flyer
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- Brantford, Ontario
I believe they were issued preloaded in much the same way the Laser Range Finders were issued. LOL
- Location
- Edmonton mostly
Pure Shiiite. Handy as a reminder that your weapons were made by the lowest bidder...
Not true at all.
Simply a case of your Thermold mags being made by an unproven innovator who sold snake-oil to a DND Project Manager looking for the most cost-effective solution to ammo feeding for the SARP 1 fielding.
Unfortunately, those very failure-prone Thermold mags resulted in the same erroneous generalizations regarding the C7 rifle and C8 carbine as those espoused by Johnny_Canuck. Most likely made in jest, however a falsehood is a falsehood. There was never any wrong with the C7 or C8 service weapons. Indeed, at the time of their fielding the Canadian licence-manufactured service rifles/carbines were superior to the US-specification rifle as a result of their cold-hammer-forged barrels and various other enhancements. Their functionality was inadvertantly sabotaged by a new design of synthetic magazine never intended for that family of firearm - particularly in sub-zero temperatures.
I served during that era, being part of the first infantry officer training intake to receive the C7 rifle and C9 LMG in 1987. When I served in my first operational battalion I was a first-hand witness to a total loss of confidence amongst soldiers regarding their newly-issued C7 service rifles. Why? Because the cheap synthetic mag failed on a constant basis. Using those mags the C7 certainly could not be taken seriously for any military use including annual qualification, let alone combat. I knew a thing or two about "black" firearms at the time, and went to great pains to explain to my soldiers that there was nothing wrong with the new rifle, just with the cheap-arsed synthetic magazine. Once the troops clued in and started obtaining USGI aluminum mags, confidence soon grew in the C7. But it was a very shaky start - all thanks to those damned Thermold mags.
Buy as a collectible, not as a "usable".
Mark C
I have some of the new versions, and they work really well, i stepped on them(With all kit i weighed at about 240, hell i did it with my ruck sack too) fired them extensively in -5 to -22 temp with no problems! I wasn't around for the original versions though!
- Location
- Edmonton mostly
I'm not digging on the C-7 or C-8. They are in the top end of all AR based combat rifles/carbines. Just hating on the mags. Well, actually I do have a problem with th C-8. The infantry always "acquires" them so I have to fumble around with the full length bugger in my vehicle 
. The A2 solves that, except I hate the ambi cocking handle/mag release; catch on everything and drop mags when you hold the rifle at low port on your battle fitness test. Just give those to the lefty lieutenants and southpaw sappers.
. The A2 solves that, except I hate the ambi cocking handle/mag release; catch on everything and drop mags when you hold the rifle at low port on your battle fitness test. Just give those to the lefty lieutenants and southpaw sappers.
I have a couple of Canadian synthetic mags for my collection marked 101, 102, & 103.
They all look the same and have broken lips. I used the synthetic Orlite mags for years and never had a problem. I was told the Israelis used them in their M16s but never took time to confirm. I usually use the steel or aluminum when I go to the renge they feed as they should and have never had a problem while in use.
I agree with the others that going into combat with those inferior mags would be a crime.
For years the Liberals didn't give a S**t about the military, and examples as previously mentioned are proof of that. The guy that had the final say about purchasing those mags should have been flogged.
They all look the same and have broken lips. I used the synthetic Orlite mags for years and never had a problem. I was told the Israelis used them in their M16s but never took time to confirm. I usually use the steel or aluminum when I go to the renge they feed as they should and have never had a problem while in use.
I agree with the others that going into combat with those inferior mags would be a crime.
For years the Liberals didn't give a S**t about the military, and examples as previously mentioned are proof of that. The guy that had the final say about purchasing those mags should have been flogged.
My Canadian mags have been sitting in a box since 2004. The Pmags and Emags are my go to now and for steel i use my HK's which work very well too!
