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Ok, aside from knocking this guy down and running with his rifle how hard are the INSAS rifles to get?
I know they aren't that good of a rifle but it would be nice to have, yeah?
Took these pics a couple days ago.

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Well, in regards to how hard they are to get, they're considered an AK variant, so they're prohibited up here. And I don't think anyone down your way is in any big rush to make one for the US market.;)
 
Satain said:
I don't know what to think?
:confused:
FN FAL?
:confused:
GALIL
:confused:
HK G3?
:confused:
Did they all have a baby in India & this is what happened?
http://85.10.199.166/assault/india/insas-e.html
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No, no, no.
It's a totally original idea, just like the 1A1. That's why India didn't have to pay royalties to FN. It only looked the same.

Not saying it wouldn't be cool to have one of these but it would be cool to have a chauchat too.

I own a 1A1 and the finishing is a frigging joke. People like to poke fun at norinco's finished product, but it is head and shoulders above what the Indians put out. That being said, it still works.
 
From what I have heard, piece of junk. So far the Indians are the only ones to have made an unreliable AK derivative.

Satain is right, it is a Frankenstein of various other designs (like just about every other modern rifle).

Word is it will be replaced by the TAVOR.
 
recce said:
No, no, no.
It's a totally original idea, just like the 1A1. That's why India didn't have to pay royalties to FN. It only looked the same.
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Not quite....
India refused to enter into a licensing agreement with FN over FAL production and reverse engineered the 1A1 - it's an unauthorized copy.
 
DaveGP said:
Not quite....
India refused to enter into a licensing agreement with FN over FAL production and reverse engineered the 1A1 - it's an unauthorized copy.
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Thanks for the correction. Trying to go from memory which apparently isn't too good.
 
It had some design issues http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/INSAS_rifle

The INSAS saw combat during the 1999 Kargil conflict with Pakistan. According to the Times of India, the rifle encountered some reliability problems in the very cold climate in which the conflict took place. Due to the cold weather, the rifle would jam occasionally and the polymer magazines would crack.[3] There were also cases where the rifle would fire on full automatic, while in three-round burst fire mode.[3] According to the manufacturers, these problems have been fixed.

After King Gyanendra seized power, relations between India and Nepal cooled, with India refusing to grant military aid. There were reports that the rifle malfunctioned in a gunbattle with Maoist insurgents, leading to many casualties.[4] This was refuted by the Indian embassy in Nepal, trials conducted before the Nepalese Army showed that the rifle was satisfactory and that the malfunctions had been due to poor handling and improper cleaning of the rifle by Nepalese soldiers.[4] These drawbacks were fixed after the Kargil Conflict in 1999.
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You know as well as I do that if you can get some in the country, even if Restricted and costing three times as much as it should, you'll still sell a few just for the novelty.
 
True. I volunteered on another thread that I would buy a Canada Legal SA-80 if one could be had for a price I could afford, even an "old" unmodified one, so in principle I would add one of these to the list.

Extremely unlikely it would ever happen though. They can't make them fast enough for their own use (notwithstanding that they are likely to junk it), so I doubt they would feel it worthwhile to make a civvy legal version for the handfull of countries that allow them.
 
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