police service revolver
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southwest maddog
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I was just thinking the other day about the cross draw flap holster that I was issued to carry my S&W revolver in. I have not seen a revolver in use in a long time.
You see the argument was that we needed the pistols because a magazine holds more than a cylinder and is easier to reload. When we got our pistols we had to turn in our revolvers.
You see the argument was that we needed the pistols because a magazine holds more than a cylinder and is easier to reload. When we got our pistols we had to turn in our revolvers.
... Changing Times and changing Tastes spelt the end of the Revolver in Police Circles. Personally, I never felt "under gunned", with, either the 5" or the 2" Model 10, once the issue Ammunition was changed, to the so called, FBI Load. The velocities were for practical purposes, with the +p loading, low end 357 Magnum. And they performed very well indeed. ..... David K
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The 8 shooters are on N-frames, IE-Model 327/627. AFAIK, the Model 10 on the K-frame only came with 6 shot cylinders. (Model 13,14,15 and such) The seven shooters in 357 are on the medium sized L-frame. (686-5 and up??)
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The RNC switched over to the Sig 226 in 40 Cal in 2004. I believe they were the last large force to switch to semi autos.
I don't know of any force in Canada that still uses revolvers.
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I don't know how many times when running I had to stop and pick mine off the pavement
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The only large city police force in North America via rumour I've heard, that officers had the choice of a revolver or pistol, after the department issued 9mm pistols was in NYC.
IIRC, the older serving officers who started with the Model 10s, were given a grandfather option, to continue to carry thier Model 10s on duty, instead of the 9mm that became standard issue at that time in 1993.
As these older NYPD officers retire, by definition so do thier sixguns.
In O'Hare airport a couple of months back, I saw a Chicago PD officer carrying a revolver. I remember thinking it was strange. He was an older fellow...
One of the more insightful discussions of police sidearm choices that I have ever seen, back in the day when police forces were in the middle of converting from six-shooters to large capacity semi's, talked about the round count of officer-involved shootings.
With revolver-armed police, the round count typically is 2 or 3 rounds, or else 7. With semi auto armed officers, it was frequently the same two or three rounds to a stopping hit, or else the whole 13, 15, 17 19 or whatever was in the mag and the one in the pipe, plus one.
The explanation is simple. Either the gun comes out and a sight picture is taken and the trigger pressed, and hits happen, or the gun comes out, thrust towards the suspect, the trigger jerked until the noises stop, and during the reload, the officer, if still standing, remembers things like the sights on the end of his piece, and to press, not jerk the trigger. Me, I always would have rather only spent a couple of seconds wasting six rounds, than having to suffer through incoming fire while I emptied a 19 round mag. Lousy logic for weapon selection I know, but, it is hard to deny human frailty.
Watch modern trained officers wildly empty their self-loader when taken by surprise. As a private citizen caught in the wrong place, I have always been in favor of a fecal storm of six un-aimed rounds loosed in my communty, than twenty.
With revolver-armed police, the round count typically is 2 or 3 rounds, or else 7. With semi auto armed officers, it was frequently the same two or three rounds to a stopping hit, or else the whole 13, 15, 17 19 or whatever was in the mag and the one in the pipe, plus one.
The explanation is simple. Either the gun comes out and a sight picture is taken and the trigger pressed, and hits happen, or the gun comes out, thrust towards the suspect, the trigger jerked until the noises stop, and during the reload, the officer, if still standing, remembers things like the sights on the end of his piece, and to press, not jerk the trigger. Me, I always would have rather only spent a couple of seconds wasting six rounds, than having to suffer through incoming fire while I emptied a 19 round mag. Lousy logic for weapon selection I know, but, it is hard to deny human frailty.
Watch modern trained officers wildly empty their self-loader when taken by surprise. As a private citizen caught in the wrong place, I have always been in favor of a fecal storm of six un-aimed rounds loosed in my communty, than twenty.
Dexter Morgan
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"With revolver-armed police, the round count typically is 2 or 3 rounds, or else 7. With semi auto armed officers, it was frequently the same two or three rounds to a stopping hit, or else the whole 13, 15, 17 19 or whatever was in the mag and the one in the pipe, plus one. "
Yeah; There was a cop in London Ontario who fired 19 rounds a couple of months ago. He was chasing an unarmed suspect through a residential area. He put 19 holes in various houses, fences, decks, and sheds.
Of course he wasn't charged with unsafe handling of a firearm.
Yeah; There was a cop in London Ontario who fired 19 rounds a couple of months ago. He was chasing an unarmed suspect through a residential area. He put 19 holes in various houses, fences, decks, and sheds.
Of course he wasn't charged with unsafe handling of a firearm.
