King Armory KA-1212BR brake/breacher NOW IN STOCK

Greetings,

First off, I am glad you came forward and explained your product. I call that the mark of a good manufacturer who will openly defend and explain their product.

You have made my decision easy and when the breaching brake is available next year you canbet I will be getting one.

Secondly, Claybuster, the thread was about if anyone was interested in the product, not if anyone was interested in your cheap .2 cent opinion about someone elses shooting. If nothing else you have further pushed ahead the stereotype of skeet and clays shooters being elitist j@ck@sses. I am sure the sport thanks you for your efforts.

Flame away.

Matt

Tell ya what, for being concise and a voice of reason, email me a shipping addy and what you need and I'll send you one at no charge when they're ready. Send us some pics of you shooting your rig out at the clays yard and I'll even send you a shirt ;)
 
Secondly, Claybuster, the thread was about if anyone was interested in the product, not if anyone was interested in your cheap .2 cent opinion about someone elses shooting. If nothing else you have further pushed ahead the stereotype of skeet and clays shooters being elitist j@ck@sses. I am sure the sport thanks you for your efforts.

Flame away.

Matt

No flames at all. Actually you and I agree on many things. To quote you

Greetings,

I haveto admit the brake is tempting, but I really want the tacticool factor. This is my toy shotgun, so making it look like I want it to is all I want from it. Mall Ninja of me I know, but we all have those moments where we just want something that looks b@d@ss! LOL. I will wait for the doorbuster.

Thanks,

Matt
So you believe the door breacher is "tacticool," for a "toy shotgun," makes you a "mall ninja" and it's all about looking "b@d@ss."

We are in complete agreement.
 
And yet the clay&skeet crowd will pay extra for high-luster blue finish just because it 'looks pretty' even though it offers near zero corrosion or wear resistance and adds absolutely NOTHING to the function or effectiveness of the gun. Yet I'm sure you have no problem with that because its YOUR gun and not someone else's. There are no $30K 'tactical' shotguns but there are plenty of Kreighoff and Perazzi O/U's out there that are well over that price and don't shoot any better pattern than a decent $500 pump will. Yet I'm sure you have no problem with that because its YOUR people and not someone else's. Yeah, building a 'tactical' gun is obviously a huge waste of Paden's $$$. Thanks for proving that ignorant Fudds aren't just on Bugs Bunny cartoons ;)
 
I think what is being missed here is that this thread is in the wrong forum. There is a specific thread for tactical shotguns. You would find more customers over there.

Hey, if you like tactical style shotguns, have at it, just do it in your own forum and leave us clay snobs, fudds, and pissy Canadians alone. This thread smells very "troll-like" to me.
 
Ah, I found it. I assumed "sporting shotguns" was a polite way of saying "other than for hunting purposes". I just replied to the original thread, I didn't write it and Google found it. Didn't realize that there was some kind of Fudd fraternity forum here ;) Maybe a mod can move this offending thread to the 'Black and Green Shotgun" forum so Claybuster and Co. can continue yammering about the pros and cons of Lexus SUV's and the subtle nuances between the various versions of Browning Citoris :rolleyes:
 
Kingarmory, how much would you say your breacher/FH tightens the pattern? Have you done much patterning to see just how much improvement there is?

Going to start a thread over in the B&G Shotguns forum so that we don't interrupt the cricket chorus over here ;)
 
HAHA I'll meet ya there. But to be honest, I love when a lone B&G guy wanders into the H&S forum. Like a sheep bumping into a wolf pack, they attack with hilariously entertaining comedy. Makes for a fun read! I do notice how we politely redirect lost sporting souls to the correct forum...
 
HAHA I'll meet ya there. But to be honest, I love when a lone B&G guy wanders into the H&S forum. Like a sheep bumping into a wolf pack, they attack with hilariously entertaining comedy. Makes for a fun read! I do notice how we politely redirect lost sporting souls to the correct forum...

LOL your so right, but king is being very nice, you should read soem of his post on shotgun world, he can really let em have it when he wants to :)
KA stuff really works, we have a bunch of the standard non breechers coming ,ill be seting up a 14inch 870 bbl with one, ill be sending out to a few peopel for testing.
I dont need to do it myself because i allready know it works.
Their is a reason people keep trying to copy the king brake/breacher.
bbb
 
Wow, the personal attacks here astound me.

Two guys start ganging up on someone because of a relationship to BBB. Apparently from a posting earlier in this thread, BBB slighted someone here sometime ago and they feel they need to attack anyone associated with BBB.

I was quite interested in this breacher style choke for my hunting gun as I'd read some interesting posts on other sites in regards to patterns, etc.

Please keep the personal attacks to a minimum, I would have liked to hear about this as a HUNTING accessory. Negativity doesn't help anyone.
 
Maybe they should just buy an extra set of key's.

Yeah, but its a lot easier to have one 'key' that opens any lock ;) Actually, you'd be surprised what is involved in 'opening' a door in LE circles out here. The Indian reservations (sort of like Quebec but with natives instead of Frenchies ;)) have some of the biggest problems. We're getting a couple breachers setup for their drug task force because these crazy Indian dope dealers will set up shop in a trailer home and use rebar to pretty much nail all but one door and all the windows closed. Basic new game plan is to flashbang the front and back and use the breacher to cut the back door open. Its a war zone out there and they treat it as such :eek:
 
This whole thread is a perfect microcosm of why shooting is in trouble as a sport. We are being attacked on all sides, and yet we fight among ourselves. I, for one, don't give a rat's ass what you shoot - so long as you shoot. I do get depressed and saddened when I see infighting like this. This is not the way to win. Both sides here are guilty.


Sharptail
 
This whole thread is a perfect microcosm of why shooting is in trouble as a sport. We are being attacked on all sides, and yet we fight among ourselves. I, for one, don't give a rat's ass what you shoot - so long as you shoot. I do get depressed and saddened when I see infighting like this. This is not the way to win. Both sides here are guilty.


Sharptail
Well said!!!
 
A breaching attachment does two main things, it holds the muzzle in place against a door jamb or lock, and it allows the barrel to vent pressure when fired with the muzzle stuck against something. Obviously, sticking a bare muzzle in a door jamb is going to partially obstruct the barrel and can cause a barrel to rupture. A breaching attachment provides that needed venting and and standoff distance to prevent the barrel from bursting.

The improvements we made with our design is using square teeth which is less prone to snagging on gear/clothes, but bites into door jambs far better than standard point teeth. We also incorporated the features from our KA-1212 brake/suppressor unit to give it the capability of shooting tight groups (something most breaching shotguns can't do), reduction of recoil, and elimination of flash. This allows a breaching shotgun to be used for normal uses as well instead of just breaching. This allows the breacher (man, not the attachment) to be able to breach the door and accurately engage any threats on the other side. This improves group effectiveness and reduces collateral damage and unintended injuries. Generally, a 12" barrel with a KA-1212BR installed will shoot similar patterns as a 20" standard barrel will. It also will do it with near-zero muzzle flash :cool:

We spent a lot of time and money developing the part and testing it, and in turn, managed to get a lot more performance out of it than other breaching attachments that are on the market. I'd bet that we spent more time and money developing our KA-1212BR than any other company has on their attachments. We've even tested them for use with 'bird bombs' and less-lethal munitions to make sure that there are no performance or reliability problems. By the time it hit the market it was a completely debugged and ready-for-duty part. They've been available on the market since '07 and we've had ZERO failures of any kind with them, they are built to take a lot of abuse.

Sweet...thanks for the info...now I want one :)
 
We just got in a batch of KA 1212
not the KA1212br just the standard 1212.
we would offer free shipping on any order placed before chrismass
we do take visa,mc, emt,and cheque
we have sizes
.885 ideal for most remington 870/1187
.874 ideal ffor win 1300& mav 88
Please make you to size up your bbl before ordering,the closer you can get to a perfect fit the better

KA will hope in hear today and give some more details.
These are the set screw models.
more info to come
bbb
 
These KA-1212's have four setscrews for installation. The inside diameter of the mounting collar is machined to specific barrel diameters so that it is a tight fit on the end of the barrel. Simply set the 6-48 bead hole to 12 o'clock and mark the four setscrew holes. Pull the KA-1212 off and take a 3/16" drill bit and drill a .040" (approximate) divot at each of the marked setscrew locations. Slide the KA-1212 back on, use the Loctite (included in each kit) and the hex key (also included) to install the setscrews. With that combination of drill size and setscrew size, the shoulder on the setscrew will mate up against the shoulder of the divot and provide an extremely secure installation. You can also silversolder the brakes in place instead of using the setscrew method.

On this next production run we will either be eliminating or reducing the number of setscrew units we make as most of these are going to smiths who are soldering them on anyways. If you're looking for a DIY KA-1212 kit, better jump on these quick, they'll be a lot harder to come by in 2011.
 
What is the Choke constriction? Is it adjustable? Would it be suitable for Hunting and Sporting Shotguns?
 
What is the Choke constriction? Is it adjustable? Would it be suitable for Hunting and Sporting Shotguns?

No choke restriction, you can fire slugs or less-lethal ammo through it also. It tightens patterns about as much as a modified choke on most shotguns though. I use a 20" shotgun with a KA-1212 for dove hunting and run neck-and-neck with the 28" choked guns no problem. They weren't designed for hunting 4-legged critters or birds, but a lot of people use them for that as well.
 
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