Hunting Grouse or shall I say trying to...

I'm used to hunting them in heavy cover in boreal forest. I hunt mainly with my ears. Just go to a spot you think there are some birds, and stand still. Their attention span is usually only 5 or 10 minutes, so after a while they will calm down and resume their normal activity. In a good spot you might start hearing birds farther away, and then closer, and then right in front of you. or you may hear just one if at all. If you don't have a shot right away, walk to the spot the sound came from and repeat the waiting game. Usually it will be right next to you or right above you and you won't even know it. After I found the bird, i like to set up a shot so that a tree trunk is blocking the body and only the head is showing. That way you get a nice clean kill and zero chance of shot damaged meat. This is helpful when i use the 12 gauge, it's more straightforward with a .22.
Often, one will flush while I walk. Just watch where it goes, and then stare at that spot for a while. Eventually, you will pick it out. It's the same as any other hunting, you have to search with your eyes instead of just looking. And you are searching for parts of the animal, rather than the whole outline. It's the same with snowshoe hare, look for an eye or a nose in the snow, instead of looking for a rabbit.

Good luck!
 
I'm used to hunting them in heavy cover in boreal forest. I hunt mainly with my ears. Just go to a spot you think there are some birds, and stand still. Their attention span is usually only 5 or 10 minutes, so after a while they will calm down and resume their normal activity.

Ya, they stomp around like they weigh 300 lbs :D I've seen bear make less noise.
 
They don't have to be obvious, but on a dead calm evening a little rustle in the brush has to be caused by some sort of creature, eh? Those soft little chirps they did was a dead giveaway too. It worked pretty well for me.
 
Nothing pompous about what I'm trying to say. If somebody wants to cheat themselves out of a thrilling hunt, that's up to them. I'm just trying to make it clear to the O.P. that there is a world of difference depending on your method.

You could choose to drink a fine single malt scotch mixed with root beer because you want to get drunk. Or you could drink it in a different way to enhance the experience of drinking fine scotch. The quality of the experience hinges on what YOU do.
 
Depends if you are hunting for supper or not. I like to walk trails and shoot on the ground or on the wing, depending on the opportunity.

Absolutely. A grouse on the run through dense cover with nothing to shoot at but a bobbing head can often be a much greater challenge (and sport) than shooting one on the wing. Much more challenging than shooting a rabbit at times.

I've missed almost as many 'runners' as I've missed 'risers' in my career. Grouse are often safer on the ground where they can quickly escape under foliage & ground cover & slip out of sight back towards their ultra-protective roosting zones. They know this, they know when they've got you, they know when to fly or when to run for it.

Using a dog to sniff them out & force them to rise out of that protective cover so that a hunter (or possibly hunters) can get a more prepared, open shot is the preferred method of hunting magazines and their purist followers. But is it really more sporting, more ethical? I don't think so.

I'm sure there are still plenty of dogless wingshooters out there that will pass up the 50% or more daily opportunities of 'runners' that they encounter & wait only for those precious 'riser' ops. In half of these chances they will be looking the wrong way or have there gun not set right, have one foot in midair over a windfall, or having a tinkle when the darn thing flushes .... but these are the real grouse hunters. A moving & flying target with no prewarning, no tripwire, nothing but a thunderchicken's whirring wings to notify you. One on One, mano-a-mano - everyone else, including myself, take a distant, distant back seat to these patient, persnickety fussbudgets of the hunting world!

All others enjoy your time in the woods & march to the beat of your own ethical drum.
 
i'm sure there are still plenty of dogless wingshooters out there that will pass up the 50% or more daily opportunities of 'runners' that they encounter & wait only for those precious 'riser' ops. In half of these chances they will be looking the wrong way or have there gun not set right, have one foot in midair over a windfall, or having a tinkle when the darn thing flushes .... But these are the real grouse hunters. A moving & flying target with no prewarning, no tripwire, nothing but a thunderchicken's whirring wings to notify you. One on one, mano-a-mano - everyone else, including myself, take a distant, distant back seat to these patient, persnickety fussbudgets of the hunting world!

lmao!
 
Nothing pompous about what I'm trying to say. If somebody wants to cheat themselves out of a thrilling hunt, that's up to them. I'm just trying to make it clear to the O.P. that there is a world of difference depending on your method.

Not saying that YOU, yourself are pompous G-Man. There are however, pompous-ass bird hunters who think a person is something less for shooting a bird on the ground. (I was a member of the RGS, and have met a wide variety of birders.)

I don't disagree that wingshooting is challenging and fun. But in the same light, I have no problems with people shooting grounded birds. No matter which method...they're still food.

Me myself...
Sometimes I grouse hunt for the "sport" side... whereas I want them to fly up out of nowhere and take them on the wing, and sometimes....I grouse hunt because I'm hungry...and I don't care where they are, they's gettin dead.

You could choose to drink a fine single malt scotch mixed with root beer because you want to get drunk. Or you could drink it in a different way to enhance the experience of drinking fine scotch. The quality of the experience hinges on what YOU do.

Both blended and single-malts taske like #### to me. I'm not a scotch drinker.
But yes, I understand what your'e saying...

If I want sporting - I'll drink a Bombay Gin martini's, on the rim with two olives.
If I want to get hammered, I'll drink Tanguaray and Tonic.

Actuallly....both those drinks get me pretty hammered!! :D
 
I usually hunt log roads in mid-late afternoon on a hardwood stretch.
My last bird tasted like the maples I harvested it from.

While we have a good rouse Conversation going... Here is a good article I read a while ago.

http://www.gameandfishmag.com/hunting/upland-birds-hunting/gf_aa096502a/

The first sound I heard when I awoke in hunting camp was the rattle of water in the downspout. I uttered a low moan and then closed my eyes and drifted back to sleep. I suspect the others in camp did likewise because it was well after sunup before the first one up stirred from bed to turn on the coffee maker. None of us was particularly eager to venture into the cold rain that morning, but we had driven all that way to hunt grouse, and we only had two days to hunt, so we did what any avid hunter would do: We ventured forth anyway.

At the end of the day, we were all glad we did. Despite the rain, we experienced some of the best upland shooting any of us could remember. By late morning, we were barely aware that we were all soaked to the bone. And, when lunchtime came, rather than head into town, we decided to tailgate it so we could get right back into the woods. By day's end, we were wet, cold and tired, but we enjoyed a fine feast of grouse that evening.

The traditional image of grouse hunting so often captured in sporting art is an idyllic scene with a smartly dressed hunter and his fine setters leisurely strolling through a grove of golden aspens bathed in afternoon sunlight. Serious hunters know that such settings are the exception rather than the rule. Even when the weather cooperates, the habitat can often be a nasty tangle of briars that tear at your flesh and dense sapling stands that ruin your follow-through and absorb most of your shot pattern.

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Rain, on the other hand, adds a whole new dimension to the hunt. The heavy, driving rains favored by waterfowlers usually puts an end to the day's hunt for the upland gunner. A light rain or drizzle, on the other hand, might keep the casual nimrod indoors, but serious upland hunters know grouse can still be killed in wet weather. You just have to modify your techniques and equipment a bit. In fact, hunting in the rain even offers some advantages.

WEATHER EDGES
One way to take advantage of wet weather is to hunt "between the raindrops." By that, I mean bracketing your hunts before and after rain events. Like all wild creatures, grouse can sense the falling air pressure associated with an incoming front and will usually get out and feed in earnest ahead of it. I have a bad back that usually lets me know when wet weather is on the way and I should be afield. A more reliable source, however, is the local weather channel. If you know a front is coming in, get out and hunt until the rain or darkness drives you inside.

The same logic applies to the tail end of a front. Once the weather passes, the birds will be back out again, and you should be, too. The duration and intensity of the rain event will often dictate how active the birds will be. The longer the rainstorm, the hungrier the birds seem to be when it ends.

The timing of the rain is also important. For example, if a storm persists through the night and into the following morning, grouse are more likely to get off to a later start than normal.

There's a logical reason for this. Rain and cold sap their bodies of energy. They can survive harsh weather for a while but will eventually have to feed to restore calories. However, if it's too cold, they might expend more energy feeding than they can take in. Grouse seem to have an innate ability to measure this and will stall their feeding activity until they can put the cost-benefit ratio in their favor.

HUNTING IN THE RAIN
Bracketing is best applied to heavy rains. During a light rain or drizzle, grouse will often feed right through the weather system. In fact, the higher energy demands and prolonged low light may prompt them to be active later in the morning and earlier in the afternoon. This creates a longer hunting day and better odds of success if you know how to take advantage of the conditions.

In dry weather, grouse may be more likely to roost in the more open cover of a hardwood canopy and closer to cutovers, field edges and other exposed feeding areas. During periods of rainy weather, however, they'll seek the protection of softwood cover. If this denser cover exists close to a feeding area, you're all set; just hunt your usual haunts. If not, you'll be better off hunting closer to the dense cover early and late in the day, as this is where you'll find the most birds.

Grouse are gallinaceous birds. They feed on seeds, nuts, insects, catkins and herbaceous vegetation. However, because their stomachs are not inefficient at digesting some of these foods, they also have a gizzard, which is used to grind up the food. This process is enhanced by the abrasive action of small pebbles and grit, which the birds eat. When the grit is worn away or passed, it must be replaced. That's why you'll often find birds on dirt or gravel roads picking gravel late in the morning. They'll still do this in the rain but may not show up until later than usual.

RAIN MAKES MORE SCENTS
Another advantage of hunting in wet weather is that it provides better scenting conditions for hunting dogs. Scent dissipates quickly in dry air, while moisture tends to hold scent molecules down. The moisture also makes it easier for the dog to absorb scent. That's why they lick their noses so often.

BONUS BIRDS
While some purists will stick strictly to grouse, I'd venture to guess that most wouldn't pass up a serendipitous woodcock when they came across it. Chances are always there, as the two species' preferred habitat often overlaps. But your odds may be even better when it rains. Woodcock spend most of their time in the wet bottoms where they can find their favorite food, earthworms. However, when the soil in more upland areas gets saturated, it drives worms to the surface, and woodcock will be more abundant in the usually drier grouse covers.

DRESS FOR SUCCESS
Grouse hunting in wet weather will require some modifications or additions to your upland wardrobe. Even in periods of good weather, you'll often encounter dew-soaked grass and the occasional stream or low spot, so plan ahead and wear water-resistant boots. When hunting in the rain, try ankle-high rubber boots. Just make sure you select a pair with good ankle and arch support. Also, be sure the boots you choose have a rugged tread that offers good traction on wet ground. If necessary, slow your pace and pay closer attention to where you step, because slick rocks and downed timber can cause treacherous footing.

Outerwear, including pants, shirt and jacket, should also be made of a material that is waterproof yet breathable. Wool or fleece is an acceptable substitute if you don't mind getting wet, because these fabrics retain their insulating characteristics even when wet.

A warm, waterproof hat is also a must. Any part of the body will lose more heat when wet, but you can lose as much as 90 percent of your body heat through your head, even when it's dry.

Another item worth serious consideration is a pair of shooting gloves. A cold, wet rain can numb your fingers, rendering them nearly useless. I prefer fingerless wool gloves because they keep my hands and fingers warm while allowing greater dexterity and feel for the safety and trigger.

Humid conditions, especially rain, can make a mess of eyewear, but you should resist the temptation to leave your shooting glasses at home. Crashing through the brush exposes your eyes to all sorts of potential hazards, and a scratched cornea can bring a premature and very painful end to your afternoon afield.

OTHER GEAR
Dogless hunters especially may want to consider modifying chokes and loads. If you hunt with a dog, you're probably used to tight shooting over a solid point. However, the dogless hunter often has longer shots. In the rain, birds tend to hold tighter. It may be that they are less prone to flying in the rain or that they just don't hear you coming. In either case, you may want your pattern to open up more quickly, so it makes sense to switch to a more open choke and lighter shot size.
 
As loooch said a partridge lives on the edge, edge of roads. edge of swamps, edge of hard woods /soft woods , edge of fields etc. Just be ready to shoot because in our area they don't sit around and let you look at them very long. Happy hunting.
 
That's about the surest way to get a hot meal!!

I'm in eastern Ont, with about the heaviest cover you can imagine. Great wingshooting practice, but hopefully you're not too hungry. :D

its not just the eastern parts that are like that. you know its thick when you can barely see your buddy 5 yards away ;)

when it comes to rabbits and grouse its better to have a dog or a person acting like a dog to get into the thick stuff to flush out the critters. if there are fresh tracks around just keep on working the area as i've worked brush piles for a few minutes minutes before a grouse or rabbit flushed. other times they'll flush before you even get to the brush.

with both animals i'll only take a shot if i know i can whack the critter. if its a marginal shot just let them go and watch where they ran/flew as both of them usually stop not too far away. this gives you a chance to catch up and hopefully give you another chance at a shot.
 
Just do like I do,

- Wait about 2.5 hours before it gets dark.
- Drive down a back road with a healthy mix of coniferous and birch trees
- Spot the grouse in a bald birch tree (Stands out like a turd in a punch bowl) as the buds on the branches of the birch is now their source of food
- Exit warm vehicle to shoot bird and retrieve it
- Repeat steps 2-4 until dark and resume next day!

road hunting for the win:confused:

i never though i'd see someone admit that they are a road hunter...
 
i never though i'd see someone admit that they are a road hunter...


My grandfather was a road hunter. I don't think he would have minded if you called him a road shooter though because that's really what he was. He didn't have time to go hunting or trapsing through the woods. He had started his own business, had to work long hours & make ends meet. This was back in the 1910s/1920s. He would often get a dozen or more grouse driving back & forth to work in his Model T. Leave & dawn & return at dusk. The grouse were attracted to the roads for a specific reason back then (other than the obvious sun & grit supply).

Does anybody know what attracted them to the roads so much back then???????
 
My friend and I are trying to get into hunting. We went for grouse twice together (and I went alone once) but haven’t had any luck so far

On our last outing (last Sunday) we also saw a lot of (what we thought were) snowshoe hare prints, and tried to find them in the cover, but again there were so much we didn’t know that of course we didn’t get to see one...

So any charitable soul here would take me and/or my friend out with them on day to speed up our learning process?

We’re both in the Montreal area.

Thanks.

Dont put too much pressure for your first grouse, if you want to try something *Just to get your first grouse*, select a spot where you see trace, put a large pile of grain corn, come back the next day, at 2pm and wait till dark. Stay well hidden and dont move, you will get your first grouse :) guaranteed.
 
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