German K98 price check - pics

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Hey guys,

Just testing the waters and wondering what the value would be on my 1943 dated ar code (Berlin Borsigwalde) German K98k. The rifle is matched via EP and force stamped match (pics below). The rifle has two stocks, the stock that came with the rifle, which is stamped matching on the butt plate and the wrist of the stock - the stock appears to be a 'semi kreigsmodell' stock. Rifle also has a proper WWII German laminate stock aswell. Sling and cleaning rod are repro's. Bore is in exc shape, clean/shiney and very sharp. All Nazi marks/stamps are present and sharp, nothing ground/peened/defaced.

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stamped matching one side, the other side is a stamed mismatch???

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thanks for looking
 
just a note the stamped matching stock and buttplate are on the 1st stock, the one that appears to be a "semi kreigsmodell" stock. Ill get a full picture up of that stock soon

more pictures

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other stock pictures:

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Not great pics but good enuff - it's stupid cold outside.

Czech rework dou 44, one bird dot peened, lots of Waffs. Numbers matching (ie. ground & re-stamped small parts), pristine bore. Paid $550 shipped. EE deal in October.

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Your Kar98k is very nice, Artyman. Normal RC prices seem to float between $400-450. Yours is on the upper end and I would honestly say somewhere between $500-550 would be reasonable.

If you want to sell her, let me know as I am looking for a letter code Kar98k to help finish off the WW2 German collection I have.

Nice Dot 44, delta. Very interesting to see the late war style stock on her as well. Interesting re-work of the front sight to VZ 24 pattern.
 
I agree Nabs, I'd snap that up for $500. Neither of my R/Cs are that nice, one suffering from some pretty bad weathering on the bottom of the receiver and the other not having a single matching component.

Not a fan of that sight hood on the Czech. Difficult sight picture to work with unless you're shooting at a high contrast STATIONARY target. The deer were laughing at me.
 
My 1940 J.P Sauer & Sohn is not as nice as Artys either. Complete mis-match but correct period parts thankfully. The previous owner decided to put a "nice" coat of varnish all over the stock too. I can't remove the varnish without removing the intact and very crisp ink stamps either. Anyone got any tips here ?

Still shoots damn good though.

My other real beauty has to be the 1933 Mauser standard model 1924. I haven't been able to tell if she is a Russian re-build or not but she is in mid war trim. The high polish bluing finish on the receiver just blows you away. All the metal parts have a nice thin layer of patina to them too making the overall look quite attractive. She is non-matching but the bore is mint and she really shoots well.
 
My rifle also has a few attributes similar to yours Deltasilver, the original stock is VERY similar and it came with that same sight hood.
 
Yah, changing yours back could be seen as a restoration. Since mine is a parts gun, adding more "original" parts would only be wishful thinking :)

They're right at the edge of what I'll pay for a rifle, so I'm bagging as many as I can before they creep up too far out of reach.
 
FWIW, If you check Gunboards, a RC K98 sells for $200-$225 US Shipped in the States. I saw that last week in the trader.
 
Coyote Ugly said:
FWIW, If you check Gunboards, a RC K98 sells for $200-$225 US Shipped in the States. I saw that last week in the trader.
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Yes, and they also have an infinitely larger quantity of original all matching/non matching examples of wartime German K98's.

Go on gunboards etc at any given time and you will find many matching and non matching German K98's. Go onto the EE here and how often do you see an undinked with WW2 issue German K98 with all matching numbers?

They can get K98's cheaper, and we can get Stg44's and MG-42's cheaper... albeit you need the correct credentials... ;)
 
The US prices really dont matter much up here Ive found. How many matching M39s and M28 Mosins do you find up here for $175?
 
Coyote Ugly said:
I think the US price did matter. There's a guy on the Milsurp Section that imported one on Gun Nuts.
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The prices matter for anyone looking to import/export. Basically what Ive seen is that the standard US price for a milsurp rifle/pistol has little bearing up here.
 
Arty Man, I am a bit more inclined to say, closer to $400, if you include the original stock. The Russian refurbs are authentic collectibles, the way they were originally imported. Anything you have done to change them, is bubba. They are what they are.

That being said, I definitely like the look of your rifle. If it didn't have Russian refurb stamps on it, your replacement of original parts would be OK. EP markings are normal with Russian capture rifles. That lovely stock you put on it isn't.

I'm sure you will get a premium for the rifle as it is in such nice condition and does look very good. Just like in real estate, location is everything, in firearms, after originality, condition is everything.
 
bearhunter said:
Arty Man, I am a bit more inclined to say, closer to $400, if you include the original stock. The Russian refurbs are authentic collectibles, the way they were originally imported. Anything you have done to change them, is bubba. They are what they are.

That being said, I definitely like the look of your rifle. If it didn't have Russian refurb stamps on it, your replacement of original parts would be OK. EP markings are normal with Russian capture rifles. That lovely stock you put on it isn't.

I'm sure you will get a premium for the rifle as it is in such nice condition and does look very good. Just like in real estate, location is everything, in firearms, after originality, condition is everything.
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Kinda have to disagree there. RC's are the most massive bubba operation in history. I don't think they are authentic collectibles at all being force matched and having the stocks swapped around. To me they are already ruined as original rifles so if you swap parts to at least get historically correct rifles there is nothing wrong with that. e.g., correct WaA stampings for the code and correct period stocks and barrel bands etc.
 
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