'Fallin Skies' duck hunter charged with waterfowl violations

gravyboat said:
Paragraph 24 of the Indictment:

In or about the Fall of 2005, FOILES . . . drove to a city park in Loveland, Colorado, after learning that numerous Canada geese with leg bands and neck collars were at the park. FOILES used bread to entice banded geese near his vehicle, shot the geese with a pellet gun, retrieved the geese, and removed their leg bands and neck collars. FOILES called this method of collecting goose bands "parking," and subsequently used the collected leg bands to decorate his duck and goose call lanyard, which he wore prominently on his commercial hunting videos to advertise his skill and experience as a migratory waterfowl hunter.
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Thats pretty ####ed up...
 
A bit off topic comment here but pertains to the theory of the thread.

I used to watch channel "a" on TV to partake of the hunting shows. One Canadian show in particular one day I was watching. They were on a mule deer hunt in S.Saskatchewan during rifle season. I noted some very disturbing practices. First one was the dress in complete camo. The second was the harvest of the deer, The animal was on a balls out run , first shot was a rear end hit, the second and third appear and sounded like clear misses, and the fourth was hit. The animal continued to run for a bit them finally dropped some distance later.

I contacted the shows producers to ask a few questions.

First was why they were hunting in full camo during rifle season. They responded saying it was legal cause they were on private land.I Explained that private or not you have to be wearing the appropriate clothing/color for rifle season. His reply was , do you think we are that stupid not to investigate the hunting regulations before we film a program? I said the law was the law, private land or not. No more response after that.

The second was how the animal was harvested. I asked if they thought that was an ethical way of harvesting an animal and should be shown for new and younger hunters. Response was it didn't matter as long as the animal was harvested in a legal and efficient way no matter how many shots it took. I asked about waiting for the ethical single shot scenario and passing on the difficult shots especially trying to promote our sport and pastime. No response either.

To me it looks like when money is the main objective that the rules don't apply, and we wonder why we have trouble instilling morals and ethics in new hunters.
 
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I have met Jeff Foiles and hunted with him once and will confirm anyone's statement's that he is a first class DOUCHE BAG. Hence why It was only once.
Regards
 
Lots of outfitters get caught up in the "gotta make money" fever and start to sell out a bit at a time. Also, if you hunt in areas that they feel they have claim to watch out because they can be real jerks if they feel you're cutting into profit.
 
Dukester said:
So what about all his products still on the shelves? Proceeds of crime?
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When they bring the Lacey Act into play, things go from bad to" Holy CRAP, F###ED!!:eek:"
I would imagine that everything seized would be construed as proceeds of the crime, but I'm not a lawyer , so i am not certain.
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Cinch said:
Seems ironic then that the prairie provinces changed the possession regulations this year to accommodate the outfitters by increasing the possession limit to 3 days (AB&SK) and daily bag limit to 8 dark geese (MB). The reason was that the majority of outfitters sell 3 day waterfowl hunts and by increasing possession limits to 3 days (or 8 darks in MB) they would only have to "gift" birds on change out days (2 times a week as opposed to 4 times a week) and in the case of MB clients could shoot 24 dark geese opposed to the 15 during a 3 day hunt and keeping high volume shooters from heading to AB&SK.
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The yanks that shoot around here run ads in the rural newspapers offering to give their birds away to the locals. You just have to show up at the Glenboro Motel in Southern Manitoba and they will give you a limit of mallards,Snows or Canada's.
I know it also happens in the Basswood and Newdale areas also, it just allows them to keep on hunting and put up some high kill counts for bragging rights and picture taking.
I guess this is probably better than the knee high pile of ducks I found on an island in the middle of Sandy Lake right after the yanks pulled their duck boats off and headed for shore.
 
taffman said:
The yanks that shoot around here run ads in the rural newspapers offering to give their birds away to the locals. You just have to show up at the Glenboro Motel in Southern Manitoba and they will give you a limit of mallards,Snows or Canada's.
I know it also happens in the Basswood and Newdale areas also, it just allows them to keep on hunting and put up some high kill counts for bragging rights and picture taking.
I guess this is probably better than the knee high pile of ducks I found on an island in the middle of Sandy Lake right after the yanks pulled their duck boats off and headed for shore.
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I would contact Manitoba Conservation via the "TIPS" hotline if I had come across wastage of game on that level. If an outfitter was involved he may be charged as well... but most outfitters dipose of unwanted/unclaimed birds very carefully as their livelyhood is at stake should they be convicted of wastage. With this said I strongly believe Manitoba Conservation turns a blind eye to the practice in the name of "tourism".
 
I hunted with some of the Foiles crew in Oct 2006 at SLO and must say it was the last time I ever supprted them in any way, shape or form. Ignorance and arrogance were the two main ingredients in being Pro Staffers with the Foiles crew. I have never purchased a video of theirs after my first purchase and seeing guys blasting dead falling birds over and over putting round after round into them and laughing their fool heads off about it. They took waterfowling ethics to an all time low!! If the charges are true then I hope they throw the book at him. Either way he is done as he is being charged under The Lacey Act so we are talking Federal Felony charges and a felony charge in the good old USA means you cant ever own a gun again!!. I was looking at another forum board yesterday and there was a link up showing the D&J Strait Meat Duck Club( Foiles Hunting Club) in Illinois listed for sale. It was listed under Bill Jordans Realtree properties. I am assuming he is going to be in need of alot of $$ for lawyers with 23 felony charges against him! Under the indictment they have even listed the serial #'s of all his Benelli shotguns for all to see on the charges. I always wondered how or why Bill Jordan endorsed Foiles' style of hunting but I guess the almighty dollar is what it is all about in the end with those guys. Modern day market hunters!:(
 
M12shooter said:
I would contact Manitoba Conservation via the "TIPS" hotline if I had come across wastage of game on that level. If an outfitter was involved he may be charged as well... but most outfitters dipose of unwanted/unclaimed birds very carefully as their livelyhood is at stake should they be convicted of wastage. With this said I strongly believe Manitoba Conservation turns a blind eye to the practice in the name of "tourism".
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Let's all jump on the anti-American bandwagon, since it's common knowledge that Canadians never waste birds or any wildlife for that matter.

Be careful in making generalized comments like the above.I have personally witnessed and reported resident hunters tossing birds.
Make no mistake that Manitoba Conservation has zero interest in safeguarding the outfitting industry or American hunters, the contrary is true. After all, let's remember we have an NDP gov't and outfitting is a private enterprise.

Regardless of the above, wasting any type of game is a despicable act and anyone doing so should be prosecuted to the full extent, no matter their nationality or occupation.
 
gravyboat said:
Paragraph 24 of the Indictment:

In or about the Fall of 2005, FOILES . . . drove to a city park in Loveland, Colorado, after learning that numerous Canada geese with leg bands and neck collars were at the park. FOILES used bread to entice banded geese near his vehicle, shot the geese with a pellet gun, retrieved the geese, and removed their leg bands and neck collars. FOILES called this method of collecting goose bands "parking," and subsequently used the collected leg bands to decorate his duck and goose call lanyard, which he wore prominently on his commercial hunting videos to advertise his skill and experience as a migratory waterfowl hunter.
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UN F***ING BELIEVABLE! What a POS if this is proven true.

This POS is what gives hunting a bad name.
 
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