Black Yote

that's a yote...I stay in touch with some yote hunters in SW Ontario and they usually get 1 black one a year out of 60-70 total.

I don't know about black wolves having domestic dog DNA in them...I have seen some black wolves in pretty remote country of the northwest...way far away from civilization...
 
While hunting deer this fall in the New Lowell area, my son and I shot three coyotes. One was completely black with a white blaze on its chest. We've seen quite a few black coyotes in this area. As a matter of fact last year the only buck we saw and shot was being chased by two black coyotes. My son got the deer and I got the yote! Judging from the size in our area, I'm sure they are part domestic dog. Some are almost as big as a GSD.

FYI, a 300 grain sabot at 100 yds pretty much cuts a yote in two!
 
CROWCA said:
As big as everyone thinks coyotes are very few are over 40 lb,most are under that.
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yeah, out here in alberta.

frickin were-yotes out east. i always laughed at stories about coyotes putting the run on humans until i started seeing some of these pics.
 
During two years of research and after weighing hundreds of Eastern yote's -- the average weight was 35 pounds with the heaviest being just over 55 lbs. Yes there are some that are bigger but the average eastern yote is only 5-10lbs bigger than the average western one.
 
sjemac said:
During two years of research and after weighing hundreds of Eastern yote's -- the average weight was 35 pounds with the heaviest being just over 55 lbs. Yes there are some that are bigger but the average eastern yote is only 5-10lbs bigger than the average western one.
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Interesting. Most of the yotes I've shot or have seen weighed have been in the 40-60lb range. Maybe they're well fed and not hunted enough around here?
 
diemaco said:
Interesting. Most of the yotes I've shot or have seen weighed have been in the 40-60lb range. Maybe they're well fed and not hunted enough around here?
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And you remember the ones in that range and forget about the little 20 lbers that help make up the average. The yotes I was weighing were trapped and shot. If your calling coyotes you're also going to be selecting for the more mature and agressive yotes and not getting the same cross section you get from trapping.

Not saying your lying but we also have a lot of guys bragging about 20lb geese being shot yet when a guy offered a dozen decoys for proof of one that size, none materialized. He dropped the wieght by a pound every year until a 16 lb goose won the prize. They're out there, there's not a lot of them though. Most guys I collected the yotes off of told me they were 40 or 50 lbs when they actually ended up being 30-35 lbs on the scale.
 
The heaviest we weighed was 65lbs and lightest just over 20. We shot one that had a gut on him like a basket ball full of pork and he didn't want to run. Colours red like a fox, all black, grey, straw and the no hair mange ones.
 
its shape and size is the same as an average yote from around here. its dark coloring and the way its being held in the one pic makes it look different. compare the size and shape of its head, legs and paws in the one pic where its laying down and it's easy to see its a yote. it's also possible it's a coydog. the number of dogs i see running wild on and around the reserve is ridiculous. :rolleyes:

you didn't happen to nail this one around burford did ya? the girlfriend saw a full grown black/dark gray yote ripping apart what i assume as a roadkill deer 15-20ft from the road. that would have been around 10am im guessing.
 
I wonder how much food a coyote could pack away in one day? We had a deer kill from coyotes last winter, big buck that already shed, he had to be atleast 250lbs. In 4 days he was hide and bones. Sure the ravens and crows picked at him, but 7 coyotes took him down so how many coyotes does it take to eat 200lbs of meat in 96 hours ?

just wondering because if a coyote can eat about 10lbs in a day, they could really vary in weight between meals.
 
A couple of black coyotes we got last year, we chased the bigger one the year before but never got him and then the first day of last year we shot him and one of his offspring running together.
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Demonical said:
I'm not an expert that sure looks like a young wolf, this years pup I'd say.
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Definite +1 on that. Compare the shape and mass of the head and snout on the two in the picture immediately above Demonical's post (which I think are close-to-pure coyotes...awesome pic, by the way!) to the same structures on the one that started this thread, especially in the follow-up photos. Huge difference there. JMHO, no expertise professed here.
 
sjemac said:
Eastern yotes have been proven to have Wolf Dna in them. They interbred with the few remaining wolves as they spread east. East of Western Ontario we'd get them in white, red, and black forms and at a cinsiderably larger size than the western dogs. Nice coyote but definitely a coyote. I spent two years of my life doing nothing but working with Eastern Yotes. I could almost be described as an "expert" (whatever that means).
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sjemac,

Do you have any literature/research published for reading?

Greg
 
Demonical said:
I'm not an expert that sure looks like a young wolf, this years pup I'd say.
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They look similiar to what we see here in parts of Cape Breton and we have the odd black one also. I have a pack of 6 coyote hanging out in the farm field behind our house as we speak. Problem is I am in the middle of town and cannot discharge any firearm , or bow or trap them. It is common to see a couple a week in the back field.
There are mornings I could probally pick them off with a nice 223 right from my deck when they walk on the track and sit there for hours. Maybe 120 yards
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When I first moved here 20 years back many farmers had pigs, cows , sheep, chickens the works now most keep a few horses and all blame the coyote for not keeping the rest of their farm animals. I remember one day 4 coyote killed 17 lamb at one friends farm most of which they never even took a bite out of. Just killed them and never came back to eat even one.
Not my pic but this black phase guy was shot about 5 hours from me by another hunter and is posted on the nova scotia hunters site.
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The Eastern Coyotes have Eastern Wolves (and Red Wolves) DNa traces. Eastern Wolves themselves are now considered as a distinct specie.
http://www.wolfsongalaska.org/wolves_canada_eastern.html

The Trent University in Peterborough runs a DNa study on Eastern Wolves and on a lower basis Eastern Coyotes.

You can also query here; http://web.nrdpfc.ca/

They use a lot of road kills, trappers / hunter samples to fill up their task.

This place is a good source for Eastern Coyote; http://projectcoyote.org/newsreleases/news_eastern.html
The author is somewhat in love with the dogs, but he knows Yotes a lot.

Around here, in summer time, it is more and more common to see coyotes feeding on marmots (groundhogs) in hay fields, often just couple of hundred yards of farm buildings.
 
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Baribal said:
The Eastern Coyotes have Eastern Wolves (and Red Wolves) DNa traces. Eastern Wolves themselves are now considered as a distinct specie.
http://www.wolfsongalaska.org/wolves_canada_eastern.html

The Trent University in Peterborough runs a DNa study on Eastern Wolves and on a lower basis Eastern Coyotes.

You can also query here; http://web.nrdpfc.ca/

They use a lot of road kills, trappers / hunter samples to fill up their task.

This place is a good source for Eastern Coyote; http://projectcoyote.org/newsreleases/news_eastern.html
The author is somewhat in love with the dogs, but he knows Yotes a lot.

Around here, in summer time, it is more and more common to see coyotes feeding on marmots (groundhogs) in hay fields, often just couple of hundred yards of farm buildings.
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Some interesting reading here. Thanks for sharing
 
"...a wolf/yote mix..." Wolves don't breed with coyotes. They kill every one they come across.
A black coyote is a colour phase just like a blond/brown black bear.
 
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