New Yote Rifle - .204 or .223?
- Thread starter Slug870
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Pyd
you got me there..........
Most of the guys I know that shoot 20 cals want or do shoot the lighter bullets. I feel 22 cal bullets are better made than 20 cal just as 20 cal are better than 17. It comes to a point where I feel it is tougher to make consistent small bullets. I could be totally wrong but that is my thoughts.
I guess it comes down to personal preference. I am one who wants a rifle for a specific bullet and job. The closest rifle I have to a multi tasker is my 243 Win. I can shoot 105's out of it respectably for deer and 55gr Bk's as well for coyotes. Am I happy? NOPE. Still not doing what I want.
Thus the choice to rip my 6BR appart and build a 223. A 6BR is an example of a rifle that one either builds for light or heavy bullets. The throating for either bullets is SOOOOO different. I am not one for compromise.
Again, JMO
CBY
you got me there..........
Most of the guys I know that shoot 20 cals want or do shoot the lighter bullets. I feel 22 cal bullets are better made than 20 cal just as 20 cal are better than 17. It comes to a point where I feel it is tougher to make consistent small bullets. I could be totally wrong but that is my thoughts.
I guess it comes down to personal preference. I am one who wants a rifle for a specific bullet and job. The closest rifle I have to a multi tasker is my 243 Win. I can shoot 105's out of it respectably for deer and 55gr Bk's as well for coyotes. Am I happy? NOPE. Still not doing what I want.
Thus the choice to rip my 6BR appart and build a 223. A 6BR is an example of a rifle that one either builds for light or heavy bullets. The throating for either bullets is SOOOOO different. I am not one for compromise.
Again, JMO
CBY
I tried most of the light bullets too, around 32gr if I recall. They all shot OK, but none held a candle to the BK's. I even tried the 45gr, they seemed to come out of my rifle sideways, I was lucky to to shoot a 2" group with those things.
The .204 is an awesomely accurate round, but like most bullets you have to find what your gun likes, I tried everything on the market when I got my .204. Once I found one that it liked I have lost my interest in reloading, for accuracy sakes.
For me it was all about the noise, the .204 is far from a silent killer, but it is significantly quieter than a 250.
Just like everything else, it is just a matter of taste, there is no right and wrong.
The .204 is an awesomely accurate round, but like most bullets you have to find what your gun likes, I tried everything on the market when I got my .204. Once I found one that it liked I have lost my interest in reloading, for accuracy sakes.
For me it was all about the noise, the .204 is far from a silent killer, but it is significantly quieter than a 250.
Just like everything else, it is just a matter of taste, there is no right and wrong.
you got me there..........
Most of the guys I know that shoot 20 cals want or do shoot the lighter bullets. I feel 22 cal bullets are better made than 20 cal just as 20 cal are better than 17. It comes to a point where I feel it is tougher to make consistent small bullets. I could be totally wrong but that is my thoughts.
I guess it comes down to personal preference. I am one who wants a rifle for a specific bullet and job. The closest rifle I have to a multi tasker is my 243 Win. I can shoot 105's out of it respectably for deer and 55gr Bk's as well for coyotes. Am I happy? NOPE. Still not doing what I want.
Thus the choice to rip my 6BR appart and build a 223. A 6BR is an example of a rifle that one either builds for light or heavy bullets. The throating for either bullets is SOOOOO different. I am not one for compromise.
Again, JMO
CBY
Coopers are very nice and have very nice wood. Personally I would not spend money on one just as I would not spend the money on a HS Precision. You may not have as PRETTY a rifle but buying a cheap Savage or Rem SPS and rebareling will give you a better shooter in my opinion.
CBY
CBY
- Location
- Stony Plain, Alberta
You'll love your .204. My kids love it more then I do, I never get to touch it.
I have predator/varmint rifles in .204, .223 and .22-250, but the .204 is so fun that I have two: one for hunting and another that usually just sees action at the bench. Unless you reload, however, I usually advise folks to pick another cartridge for predators.
FF33, a 204 and 223 are quite close to being the same round. Recoil should be so close. The difference with a 204 is there are lighter bullets available than in 223. The 204 also has a slightly larger case capacity so thus the velocities are higher. With the higher capacity of the 204 and slightly smaller bore it should have a slighter shorter barrel life in THEORY.
My 204 and 1 of my 223's are almost identical, both heavy barrels with HS stocks, the 223 weighs a bit more because of the 56mm objective scope. I can always see the hits with the 204 regardless of bullet weight. Not so with the 223 but there is a difference between shooting 70gr and 50gr bulllets. I am considering having ATRS install a brake on the 223 to minimise the muzzle jump.
No, don't make that conclusion. The .223 is still pretty mild, just that the .204 is milder still.
There's not much out there that has a better barrel life than the .223, but it does depend on your loads. The .204 is not nearly as bad for barrel erosion as some folks think.
- Location
- Central Sask
My 223 has zero reoil, spotting my hits, superb accuracy. As far as velocity goes, I havent had a coyote jump out of the way of a 223 bullet
I am a believer that the .204 is the best out there for varmint and predators.
Have a look at 204ruger.com, lots of good info there, most guys have an array or calibers and the opinions are not biased, but there are some good solid facts.
Have a look at 204ruger.com, lots of good info there, most guys have an array or calibers and the opinions are not biased, but there are some good solid facts.
