Where can I get Holland Recoil lugs in Canada?

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I need two fast. Looking for any info on who might have some and can express ship them before Christmas.

I have a couple of builds that I would like to get done during the holidays.
 
I like the diameter of the Holland lug.. it matches the action and looks real good... I wish it was thinner, the same size as the Remington one...
 
I just got this from Hollands today. Might have to do the export/import thingy though.

**Dear Sir,

Yes, we can ship to Canada.

Please give us your name, billing AND shipping addresses, phone number
where you can be reached in case of a question, and credit card information (
number, expiration date and code from the back).

We can then fill out the proper forms and send it to you.

There is a 4% charge added to international orders, and all are shipped
global priority mail through the Postal Service, with delivery confirmation
and insurance.

If you have a USA address the shipping will be much cheaper, but if not, we
can still ship.

Sincerely,
Debi**
 
Why? Because I want to.

Do I think there is a real need for it? Personally, no. But I am putting new barrels on two rifles and figured, why not?

The reason for the Holland is that when I made my last Brownells order I ordered two lugs and the jig that holds them in place when you tighten the action. Holland does not have the proper paperwork filled out with Brownells to export, so they can't send them from Brownells. However, as stated above, they will send them. So I figured since I have the jig, I might as well get the lugs.

The reason I originally chose the Holland is just like Guntech stated, the diameter matches the action and doesn't leave an empty gap like the factory Remington.

So, if I'm going to be installing new barrels anyway, might as well make it look as good as possible. Would I cut back the shoulder on a factory barrel just to install a heavier lug? Probably not.
 
lejarretnoir said:
Dennis, do you get much call to pin the lugs? I see Holland sells those.
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I don't bother pinning them. I found the indexing tool when assembling works fine. I also found if you put a small amount of coarse lapping compound on the face of the action, the lug sticks to it much better (as in rotates with the action) when the barrel is torqued tight. I have broken pins with 'clean' surfaces when tightened and slightly distorted the aluminum indexing jig.
 
I don't think the added thickness is needed, the important thing is to have them ground flat as opposed to being blanked out. As guntech says about the pins!
 
The Hollands are nicely made and if it's about looks I can understand that. I'm no expert, but I've checked a dozen or so factory lugs and to be honest they were very true. Put one on the Bridgeport and took .001 off which squared it perfectly.

Ian, do you have a surface grinder?
 
I didn't mean to be snippy, it was late :)

I agree that the Remington factory lug can be fine. I'm definitely no expert either. My LTR was the most accurate gun I have ever owned, right out of the box. With good hand loads it could shoot .5 inch groups all day.

I have done a few rebarrel jobs and will soon offering the service as part of our growing business. I figured that customers are going to ask for oversized recoil lugs and I might as well get some experience with them. From the research I have done, Holland seems to offer the best bang for the buck in appearance and build quality. I agree with Ian though, ground flat is a must, otherwise you are just adding a big chunk of metal that is really going to serve no purpose in the sake of accuracy.

I have a surface grinder, and once we get a few other new products out the door we will start making our own lugs. Likely very similar to the Holland lug.
 
I am not knocking precision or of being precise, I like both but I will bet you can't measure any degree of accuracy difference between a rifle with a perfectly flat recoil lug and the same rifle with a lug that has a thou taper to it.
 
guntech said:
I am not knocking precision or of being precise, I like both but I will bet you can't measure any degree of accuracy difference between a rifle with a perfectly flat recoil lug and the same rifle with a lug that has a thou taper to it.
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Agreed, but a thou here and a thou there adds up. Just the way I see it. Give the rifle every opportunity possible to shoot great, then it's up to the shooter to make it happen.
 
I agree that it all adds up. I don't like the idea of a washer between the action and barrel at all and prefer a different system, ie., such as Barnard uses or the T3. I did have a surface grinder and let it go at the time because I did not have room for it, looking for one now!
 
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