Technology in hunting today

Should trails cams be legal to use for big game hunting?
yes
*Should e-callers be legal for predators?
yes
*Should e-callers be legal for big game?
no
*Should modern muzzle loaders with modern projectiles and high power optics be legal in muzzle loader or primitive weapon seasons?

yes
 
Everyone is entitled to their opinion but lets not forget that old Winchester with iron sights and even your boots were all considered advanced technology at one time. I think it is just the natural progression of hunting when new products are introduced. Instead of banning cameras and electronic calls and range finding scopes why don't we take a step backwards and ban everything but your bare hands, that way no advanced tecnology is used to harvest game wether it was made yesterday or 50 or more years ago.
 
I think the question comes down to each person asking themselves "Why do I hunt, and what do I get out of it".. once you answer that, it does not matter what other use, or what they think of what you use..

I find that I'm a very "technical" hunter, but at times, I will do the opposite, and just go out with a slingshot for grouse. There is no right or wrong, just enjoyment either way..
 
E callers are only legal in Manitoba for varmints and snow geese. As for trail cams, I've never seen one that kills a big game animal. I don't own one but have no objection to their use. My biggest beef is with ATV type equipment. Too many people with little or no hunting experience or ethics now have access to prime hunting areas. Park the damn things and hunt for Gods sake!
 
joe m said:
If someone wants to go old school, go for it. But where would you draw the line? No gortex, scopes, ......?

Most, if not all of the new technology is designed to take money out of your pocket- not put meat in your freezer. Some of it makes a day out in the field more comfortable. Use what you want & good luck :shotgun:
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Its got nothing really to do with being "old school", but if thats what you call getting out and checking out miles of trails for sign in an area that 1000 cameras couldn't cover, then I guess I'm old school. I've been hunting for 35 years and I'm really not sure what advantage cameras gives a hunter to know that a deer came by in the middle of night unless you're a poacher. I can see the tracks for free, I know that they came by in the night.

I think if you're limiting your hunting to areas only covered by video cams and toys, you've cut your hunting short. Just cuz its a hotspot this year doesn't mean its going to be next year. I like to hunt a ten or twelve square mile area because I know it changes all the time. If I thought these electronic toys would give me any advantage, I'd have a truck load of them.

If you don't already have your own personal feel for the forest, its not going to come from electronic gadgets. It will only come from getting out and being part of it. Always a new mouse trap, and another sucker born every minute.
 
Personally, as long as someone is not exceeding their bag limits when hunting (or fishing for that matter), I don't care what the hell they use to get it done; although I do definitely prefer that people be as humane as possible.

And let's not forget that for many people, hunting is about putting food in the freezer, and not about bragging rights, or sport, or having a trophy mounted on the wall, or any of that. I don't see anyone getting judgemental at the grocery store when someone else pays with thier Visa instead of cash, so how about showing subsistance hunters the same regard and not crapping on them when they go out there to get the job done as quickly and efficiently as possible.
 
I find that there is more than enough technology available, so I don't use it all. In my case, I think any more investment of time in scouting, shooting practise, learning about game animal behaviour, and thinking about my hunting methods will increase my success much more than any more technology will. So I am not much inclined to spend that time instead on working to earn more income that, after paying more tax, I can spend on gadgets.

But I don't object to anyone else buying more gadgets.
 
rgv said:
ha thats it. if its in my freezer, it's fair chase, if it's in my neighbors freezer, it was a slob hunt road kill, if it's in the brother-in-laws freezer it was poached.
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And if it's bigger than whatever I got, then there's definitely something fishy about the deal. Could be illegal for all I know, and come to think of it I can't prove that he isn't a thief as well.:mad:

It's fun bashing everyone with more and better equipment, more money or better luck. There's enough resentment around to get a sympathethic audience and it doesn't even take any talent.:D
 
Great topic. It is interesting to see other peoples`s view of hunting methods and the equipment used. While I am not a gizmo hunter, I do appreciate the other guy`s ability to use tools that I don`t. It is human nature to try and top the other guy.

What I do get a little tired of is the people who go on and on about the necessity of $800 binoculars, expensive scopes, and other high end equipment, and try to make the rest of us look disadvantaged. On the other end of the scale, I also get tired of the hunters who make fun of the well-equipped people.

Jeez, let`s just go out and enjoy hunting and the outdoors, and leave others to do their thing. :)
 
M12shooter said:
As for trail cams, I've never seen one that kills a big game animal. !
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I have!....on the i-net.

Yes,it is now possible to "hunt" from the comfort of your lazy boy using your home computer and credit card to remotely kill a live animal,no chit!! :eek:

There is a private game ranch in Texas I beleive(?) where they have a remote controlled rifle/scope etc and real time cameras set-up on feeders where one can pay to kill deer from thousands of miles away,just like a video game with real bullets and live targets.

IMHO,instant messaging trail cams aren't that much of a stretch from that kind of technology and have no place in the world of fair chase hunting.:slap:
 
Dogleg said:
I think everyone should do everything exactly like I do regarding equipment. If they vary from the dogleg approved format, it can only be in a downward direction. Useing equipment the is more effective than mine is UNETHICAL and owning equipment nicer than mine should be outlawed on general principals.
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I was thinking the same after reading some of the responses.......

I anwsered yes to all the questions.....just need to find a modern Muzzleloader :D
 
I say yes to most, though I feel like E callers for biggame/ waterfowl is a no. It would feel like cheating for me to use one for turkeys/ducks/geese. I think that part of the hunt is mastering those calls. But, there once was a time when those mouth calls were " new technology" so who knows....
 
Yes to everything.

If I had boundless opportunity and found that hunting was too easy, I'd probably feel differently. Even with all of those things being allowed (and I take advantage of all of them), I still feel that the game I'm after have the advantage. Actually, I know it.
 
gps said:
Yes to everything.

If I had boundless opportunity and found that hunting was too easy, I'd probably feel differently. Even with all of those things being allowed (and I take advantage of all of them), I still feel that the game I'm after have the advantage. Actually, I know it.
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They do have the advantage, but its brains and experience that evens the score, not technology.

I have to chuckle, but not at anyone personally. It seems like the ones with the not so full freezers seem to be throwing their hard in cash in gizmos, rather than listening to the ones that always have full freezers. Maybe those toys are edible when there is no meat and you run out of money? Or better yet, put some ketchup and mustard on your pictures. Makes me wonder how many gadget cowboys got pictures of the animals that are in my freezer?
 
fiddler said:
They do have the advantage, but its brains and experience that evens the score, not technology.

I have to chuckle, but not at anyone personally. It seems like the ones with the not so full freezers seem to be throwing their hard in cash in gizmos, rather than listening to the ones that always have full freezers. Maybe those toys are edible when there is no meat and you run out of money? Or better yet, put some ketchup and mustard on your pictures. Makes me wonder how many gadget cowboys got pictures of the animals that are in my freezer?
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What leads you to that conclusion?

I saw more than a few threads this fall, with trail-cam pics of the deer that were eventually harvested.
 
Well, after parading around the bush in my loin cloth and a spear made from a sharp rock and poplar branch to appease the traditional methods of hunting endorsed in this thread, I came to the conclusion that some progress and technology is not so bad.
 
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