New Stuff...

Well it's come full circle, just waiting on the FRT # :)
The SCAR "Koolaid" is tasting good!!!
 
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Yeah it is man. Is it normal for the RCMP to take so long to issue the FRT #?

There is no such thing as "normal". Basically they can do whatever they want as there is no "service standard" for them to meet... no real oversight and very little recourse to contest their decisions or complain about their actions.

This is NOT the only firearm they are taking inordinate lengths of time to "review" and issue a "decision" on.

The past couple of years the RCMP have been taking longer and longer to issue rulings and FRT #'s. The backlog continues to build and I believe this is due to a combination of factors... not the least of which is that they are undermanned and the volume of new firearm requests and reviews has steadily increased.

It seems the biggest delay is that they are now doing much more detailed examinations and reviews of most firearms whereas in past they basically did a cursory look at the specifications or advertising on a new import and issued a ruling based on that alone, without physically examining or testing the actual firearms. It is that type of methodology that resulted in later problems (like the Walther G22 and T97 "reclassifications").

It would appear that the Tables Section is now being much more diligent in issuing new FRT #'s and making reviews of new firearms. I suspect that a good deal of the delay is also the result of legal consultants (crown lawyers) for the tables section being called upon to give their interpretations of what is and what is not legal under the VERY CLOUDY wording of the firearms act.

It would also not surprise me if there is an intentional "go slow" policy that is delaying release of some rulings.

Whatever the real cause for the long delays there is very little we can do. My best suggestion to individuals caught up in this would be to speak with your MP. This can actually do some good... can't really do any harm... brings pressue from right across the country and does so in a way that shouldn't result in "retaliation".

In a way what we're seeing now can also be partly blamed on all of "us"... Over the past year a lot of Gunnutz #####ed and complained about the "retroactive" rulings by RCMP, where items that were "allowed into the country" shouldn't have been subject to reclassifications. I've read a lot of posts where people made a big deal out of that, suggesting that once an item was issued it's FRT classification the RCMP shouldn't be reviewing and changing those rulings... complaining about recalls and seizures. Well... now it seems that nothing is allowed into the country until the RCMP are damn sure what it is and if there is any way they can rule it "Prohibited", etc.. By evaluating and inspecting just about every new firearm in that way they have slowed the process down to a point where it now takes 6 to 12 months for many new imports to be classified (when it used to take 2 to 5 days).

At the end of the day it is my personal belief that the guys at Tables Section are not the cause of these issues. For the most part the ones I deal with are good people and not "anti-gun". I believe they are following orders and policy directives. I think the problems are coming from upper levels at the RCMP and even more than that I believe the problems are with the politicians and the civil servants. The politicians will say and do anything to get elected... they will also lie... they are NOT our friends.

Don't be fooled by their canned political responses: "I'll look into" is a favorite way of sounding like they agree with you and that they will help you with your problem... don't be fooled... you'll get a followup letter months later telling you how they spoke to the Minister involved and giving you the Minster's "canned" reply.

When you speak to your MP ask them to be clear what their position on your issue is (not just the "party line")... ask them exactly what they themselves believe and then ask them to tell you what steps they will take to help you with your problem. Don't just accept the usual crap. These are NOT complicated issues except when people want to make them complicated issues. Something is either legal or not legal and if it's not legal then that should be clearly stated in the law. If the SCAR 16s is not clearly a "Prohibited" firearm (which it is not) then there is no reason for the RCMP Tables Section to be taking over 12 months to issue an FRT # for it.

Just my thoughts ;)

Mark
 
I'd be interested in that response also...

The magazines can hold 10 rounds IF the magazines are approved by RCMP as being "designed and manufactured" for a pistol.

We are in the process of having such a magazine submitted to RCMP for review and classification... but there is no way to know how long it will take to get a decision.

Mark
 
In response to RCMP taking their fire-arms to "testing"

GSG-MP5 clone... there was no 'testing' done before decision was even made.

Lets hope they get on it though.

Luke

There was no need to test that one... thanks to the manufacturer stating right from the start that the gun was a variant of the MP5 there was no legal alternative but to classify the gun as Prohibited in accordance with the legislation that states all variants and modified versions of the MP5 are named Prohibited Firearms.

Mark
 
Hi, my names Andy. I was wondering if you guys were going to get anymore blackwater 1911s.

I've been wanting a 1911 for a while and if this was available I'd love to try and get my finances together and attempt to purchase one.

Thanks.
 
Hi, my names Andy. I was wondering if you guys were going to get anymore blackwater 1911s.

I've been wanting a 1911 for a while and if this was available I'd love to try and get my finances together and attempt to purchase one.

Thanks.

SIG stopped selling the Blackwater guns last year... they did continue to ship them for a while but only to fill dealer backorders that had been placed before they cancelled the model.

I don't remember if we received all of the units we had on backorder but I believe that we did and they are no longer something we can get you.

The TACOPS (Tactical Operations) model replaced the Blackwater but during the past month or so SIG has made a number of models "Obsolete" in preparation for the SHOT Show and what we expect will be a number of new model releases.

Sorry.

Mark
 
SIG stopped selling the Blackwater guns last year... they did continue to ship them for a while but only to fill dealer backorders that had been placed before they cancelled the model.

I don't remember if we received all of the units we had on backorder but I believe that we did and they are no longer something we can get you.

The TACOPS (Tactical Operations) model replaced the Blackwater but during the past month or so SIG has made a number of models "Obsolete" in preparation for the SHOT Show and what we expect will be a number of new model releases.

Sorry.

Mark

That's ok, thank you very much for filling me in. I look forward to seeing what comes out and making a future purchase from u folks.
 
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Mark just to keep the dream alive can you report any new SCAR accessories from SHOT this year? Sadly I can't make it.

Keep up the good work,BTW I'm interested in the rail extension.
Cheers
 
Mark just to keep the dream alive can you report any new SCAR accessories from SHOT this year? Sadly I can't make it.

Keep up the good work,BTW I'm interested in the rail extension.
Cheers

Do what I can. Usually pretty busy at the show so most "reporting" will have to be afterwards... by which time I'm sure others will have already passed the info along :)

Mark
 
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