What's the word on Remington 700s these days?

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A lot of controversy surrounding Remington's 700 from a recent news story. Lots of Remington products being scolded as having poor QC and whathaveyou.
I have a 700 and an 870 Express. The 870 has kind of a dismal finish. The 700 is nice, save for the J-lock that it came off the factory line with.

Either way, wondering how the 700 is regarded today, especially the CDL, Mountain LSS, etc. hunting oriented models as far as fit and finish, reliability, accuracy, etc.
 
Three very disappointing rifles I have owned were Remington 700's. Sights cocked several degrees to the right, sticky bolt stop, gritty trigger, mis-aligned scope mount holes, - no more Remingtons for me!
 
I've had good luck with 700s over a long period of time. A local guy just picked up a .308 with a short heavy barrel, and this thing handles surprisingly well. The trigger is all you could ask for, right out of the box; which I found surprising. It has been my experience 700 triggers need a little tweaking when you first get them, but this one rivals the expensive Jewel trigger on my target rifle.
 
IF I were to buy another I would shop for an older one. I wasnt' overly in love with the SPS I owned but they worked and they were fairly cheap. Still have an old Varmint model and Its served me well so far.
 
mr00jimbo said:
A lot of controversy surrounding Remington's 700 from a recent news story. Lots of Remington products being scolded as having poor QC and whathaveyou.
I have a 700 and an 870 Express. The 870 has kind of a dismal finish. The 700 is nice, save for the J-lock that it came off the factory line with.

Either way, wondering how the 700 is regarded today, especially the CDL, Mountain LSS, etc. hunting oriented models as far as fit and finish, reliability, accuracy, etc.
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Look, people have been #####ing on the internet about quality controls at Remington since I first went online back in 1996. If things were TRULY that bad for Remington they'd be out of business for good by now.

Perhaps I'm lucky. I've owned over a dozen 700's in the last 10 years and currently own (7) of them. I've never had a problem with any of them.

Like any company that produces mass produced consumer goods there's going to be a failure rate. Like it or not, someone is going to end up with a lemon. And when they do, there'll be a high degree of probability that you'll hear about it first on CGN.
 
I have some old 700's and a new one they all work well and bought a 870 the cheapest one workes flawless not as nice as my dads old wingmaster but works. I am still a rem fan!
 
I'm a Remington fan myself after first owning browning rifles. You basically get what you pay for. My a-bot stainless stalker was a crude unit when it came to fit and finish especially around the bolt. Compared to a Remington stainless synthetic of the same valve, the Remington won hands down. Remington trigger was so much better over the browning as well. Owned a A-bolt mountain Ti and the same crude molding on the bolt but with a flawless b&c stock. Not pissing on browning products as I still own a few and love them all but Remington is no worse then any other mass produced rifle. I've had excellent accuracy out of my 2 rem 700s and model seven. My 700 xcr will shoot 3/4 inch with Canadian tire grade Winchester or federal. As will the model seven and 5r milspec. The one thing I like about Remington is they seem to use better quality steel on their barrel and actions. I am not talking about the trynite xcr coating as on mine but my brownings will rust like a bucket if you are in any moisture and don't oil them within a few hours of comming inside. And I am referring to stainless steel. Don't let anyone tell you stainless won't rust. And I am mr anal when it comes to perfection and keeping guns oiled. 416 stainless as on the regular remingtons dint seem to have this problem.
 
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My favourite rifles have always been the older Remingtons. I love them all, the old 600/660s, the 721/722 line, the old 760 pumps and the 700s. I really love the older BDLs from the 1970s and 1980s. Just personal preference.

Has Remington produced garbage? Absolutely, especially in the last 15 years or so, in my opinion. But lets be fair here. So many guys want to bash Remington, but these same guys fail to mention some of the turds Winchester and Ruger have put out over the years.

I bought a brand new Winchester stainless featherweight about 10 years ago. Right off the shelf at Gagnon Sports. Brought it home and realized the floor plate wouldn't close properly. Took the gun apart and noticed a crappy looking shim had been added to make it work "half assed". Gun looked great, but the workmanship was terrible.

Also, for all those Ruger fans, ya they've built garbage too. I bought a brand new Ruger 375 in the African model just 2 years ago. You couldn't get that action to cycle properly with a live round to save your life. It was chewing up brass to beat the band. Also the safety was so loose it barely worked and the factory rings could not be made to line up.

I've also had 2 Ruger #1s that the action release button was so loose, even the slightest brush of your knuckle would crack the action. That was really nice, especially when you are trying to hunt. I had to do work to these guns to fix the problem and neither of these rifles had seen many rounds before I bought them.

So to conclude my rant, I think they've all made great rifles and crap rifles. It just depends what you like the best. I just so happen to love the old stuff better, regardless if it's Remington, Winchester or Ruger. And I can never figure out why people will pay 1000 or more for the newest piece of plastic junk but will complain about spending 500 on a beauty old Remington 721 or 760 gamemaster?
 
I have a Rem 700 mtn rifle in 06 manufactured in the 80's, its very accurate and has the best trigger of all my rifles, set at 2.5 lbs, very nice to carry my only beef is the bolt does not lock down. Reading these posts, the gunsmiths dont seem to think the new series are as bad as some make out.
 
I have a 700 sps, which many people love to hate, and my only issue with it was the trigger being heavy. All the other 700's in the store had pretty good triggers, but this was the only short action SS SPS left, so I bought it. I bought a trigger from Guntech for $75, set up for 3lbs, and it's fantastic. The bolt is really smooth, safety is positioned well, the magazine and follower are SS, so's the trigger group(or at least it's silver). The rifle balances well, shoots 5 shots 1 5/8" off a sandbag at 100 yards, and the scope mounts sit straight. I just bought a savage weatherwarrior, and the mag is blued, as are the bolt release and trigger. It's front heavy(thicker bbl) and the front of the stock flexes way more than the sps. Compare to the X bolt SS, with a plastic mag, or the Tikka T3, and the Rem is all steel. I'm trying different brands for the heck of it, and they all seem to have pros and cons. One thing that would be nice is if thge bolt locked down with the safety on. I have always carried my rifle in my hands, thumb on the bolt anyway, but that would be my one wish if I had a genie in a bottle.
 
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Rem M700 SPS versions seem to find me. :D I don't know why but I've been super lucky will all of my SPS models. Maybe I'm a tactical wannabee, but I've always loved the bead blasted (wishful parkerizing finish, I call it) and blued appearance.

I've owned and sold off dozens of M700's and I enjoyed every single one of them. I do have to say that I've knocked off several groundhogs with them too:

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I guess I have to keep knocking on wood. I have yet to encounter some of the goofy QC issues from Remchester, but again good fortune has come my way. Then again, maybe I don't realize QC problems when I see them in my M700's and Model 70 Winnies.

Currently I have (don't buy ONE, buy TWO of them) 2 M700's and one Model 70. Been super pleased with all of them.

Hope this helps the decision making process...

Cheers,
Barney
 
I currently have 3 700's and a Model 7, plus 7 870's and never had an issue with any of them. I also own other brands, but the ones I take hunting are always my Remingtons.
 
2bad4u2 said:
Look, people have been #####ing on the internet about quality controls at Remington since I first went online back in 1996. If things were TRULY that bad for Remington they'd be out of business for good by now.

Perhaps I'm lucky. I've owned over a dozen 700's in the last 10 years and currently own (7) of them. I've never had a problem with any of them.

Like any company that produces mass produced consumer goods there's going to be a failure rate. Like it or not, someone is going to end up with a lemon. And when they do, there'll be a high degree of probability that you'll hear about it first on CGN.
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So true. How often do people start threads to talk about how their rifles work exactly as expected?
 
Have yet to find a bad 700. They're a great rifle. If you want a nicer finish, buy a more expensive model than the SPS line. The latter is built to a price point aimed at competing with other maker's entry-level rifles.
 
To the OP... Still crap. :ban:

Seriously though, isn't Remington the only American company to have NOT retooled in about 30 years? Savage bought all new up to date machinery, Winchester got bought out, and the new company uses all new machinery....Has Remington?? :confused:

I had a few, but have since decided I like Model 70's better as a product out of the US. Then I bought a Blaser..... :wave:
 
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