long range sort or long barel?

[catnthehatt]

The distances used here were out to 600 yards.

...Nevermind what do these guys know anyway eh?



BTW they used 168 for .308 and 190 for 300 win

I wonder what a standard SAAMI chamber and barrel would do for velocity, the Tacops is hardly that.
This one delivers some pretty fast stuff over the chrony.

Cat

 

[gunlaker]

They used to shoot black powder rifles 1,000 yards in Bisley back in the 1800's no problem with iron sights.1,000 yards with modern rifles and ammo isn't really that incredible.They shoot Match Rifle in England to 1200y with irons too.

Indeed. There is still a lot of 1000 yard BPCR shooting done these days. It's done with aperture sites which work very well assuming that you are shooting at circular bullseyes and that your apertures are sized correctly.

I believe that nowadays the BPCR 1000 yard target has a 44" bull.

With practice you can shoot quite accurately with them. For instance I have a .45-110 that shoots paper patched bullets and uses aperture sights. It will out shoot my scoped Ruger #1 in .243 Win @ 200m. Mind you it won't come close to my Rem 700 in .308

Chris.

 

[Johnny_Canuck]

Get a 23" barrel, that way you can piss off all the guys saying 20 and the guys saying 26 at the same time . Bottom Line: research areas you are interested in shooting, just paper, competition paper, then buy what suits your needs. Build the exact rifle you want or building it to meet rules will net the same results if you don't practice with it. Pick a gun based on your needs and get to the range!

The "lowly" 308 is a great cartridge for prettymuch anything, but not the greatest at any one thing (except maybe barrel life). Call it the swiss army calibre, good and useful for a great number of things. Stop picking on it please.

 

[stevebc]

The "lowly" 308 is a great cartridge for prettymuch anything, but not the greatest at any one thing (except maybe barrel life). Call it the swiss army calibre, good and useful for a great number of things. Stop picking on it please.

Well said.

 

[svehn]

Isn't factory ammo made so that it will shoot out of many different lengths of barrels equally good? If so then it will have powder that gives a fairly complete burn at 20 inches. But if the powder is changed to an appropriate powder for the 28 or 30 inch barrels, I'm sure the longer barrels will outperform shorter ones. But who knows, maybe I should start using faster burning powders in my handloads so that they can be just as good as factory loads in short barrels.

 

[Ron AKA]

Isn't factory ammo made so that it will shoot out of many different lengths of barrels equally good? If so then it will have powder that gives a fairly complete burn at 20 inches. But if the powder is changed to an appropriate powder for the 28 or 30 inch barrels, I'm sure the longer barrels will outperform shorter ones. But who knows, maybe I should start using faster burning powders in my handloads so that they can be just as good as factory loads in short barrels.

Factory ammo can only contain one type of powder. It will be optimized for the length of barrel they think most users of the ammo will have -- probably 24" or so. In my experience you really can't compensate for a short barrel by changing powder. It may help a little, but the shorter the barrel the less velocity you get, and the longer the more you get. Long barrel velocity is essentially free. Takes no more powder, and does not recoil more, it just makes more use of what you already have for energy.

 

[itir_du12]

+1 for kanuk, get a 23''.

 

[svehn]

Ron AKA, that's exactly what I meant. Factory ammo won't give any speed bonus on a long barrel. It has a powder that will give similar results with short barrels as well as long due to it using a powder that burns right for the "average" length barrel. But load the same bullet in the same case with a little slower powder and speed will increase in the long barrel.

To the OP, most any rifle will get to distance with decent accuracy. But if you want higher performance and accuracy, go with the longer barrels. You may be able to get a bit more accurate with the long barrel due to the increased speed giving the wind less chance to push the bullet, depending on how well you shoot.