Got a Hungarian M52 Mosin Nagant sniper as a gift ??

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One of my mothers long time clients from work a elderly man that knew i was interested in old military rifles he asked her if i wanted a old German Mauser, and of course i jumped on it !! So she went and picked it up ,when i seen it i was surprised to see it was a mosin sniper missing the scope not a german mauser, i dont know where the guy got the idea it was a mauser lol i cant complain it was free . After further inspection i found it was a Hungarian M52 sniper all matching #s made in 1953 the scope is missing but it has the mount, so the next step was to inspect the bore and its seen better days there is no pitting but the rifling seems dull and worn compared to the russian mosins i have . So im not sure what to do with this rifle? any input? Anyone know what its worth ? i was thinking of using one of my nice russian barreled actions and use the bent sniper bolt, scope mount and stock, get a PU scope and then i will have a good shooter :sniper:,will a russian PU scope fit on this mount? Any input would be great guys heres some pics
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Contact "wheaty" by using the search feature at the top. He will have the parts you need to complete it. If he doesn't, he will be able to advise you where to get them.

Don't take it apart. Put it back into original condition and if you're not happy with it, trade if for the mauser you wanted. Once that rifle is completed, it will be quite valuable. At least in the $1200Can range, if all of the parts are oringinal.

Wheaty can also walk you through mounting the scope and bracket properly.
 
bearhunter said:
Contact "wheaty" by using the search feature at the top. He will have the parts you need to complete it. If he doesn't, he will be able to advise you where to get them.

Don't take it apart. Put it back into original condition and if you're not happy with it, trade if for the mauser you wanted. Once that rifle is completed, it will be quite valuable. At least in the $1200Can range, if all of the parts are oringinal.

Wheaty can also walk you through mounting the scope and bracket properly.
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so you think it would be worth that much if i find a scope? even with a worn looking bore? i will contact wheaty thank you
 
svt1940 said:
Sometime, even a worn looking bore can shoot great! Unless you shoot it, there's no way to know better. Very nice rifle,put a PU scope on it and try it:)
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yea i will give it a try .. i doubt i will be able to find a hungarian made scope but a russian one should work fine..
 
That's a nice original Hungarian sniper. I would restore it and sell it if you don't like it for what it is. We are told that the Hungarian snipers are quite common but I've seen only a few and owned one. I paid $800, but that was probably 5 years ago.
 
Get some really good copper cutting bore cleaner, and give the bore a real cleaning. What looks like a worn bore can often be a metal fouled bore. Common wipe it out with an oiled patch cleaning techniques won't lift built up metal fouling.

I would strongly suggest getting back to the old gentleman and find out if he has the scope. These were easily removed, and he may have it tucked away somewhere.

You were GIVEN an original sniper rifle, and you are contemplating breaking it for parts to cobble together a lookalike shooter? You don't have a scope with its bracket, you are going to have to buy that anyway, whether you fit it to this rifle or another. If you want a lookalike shooter, sell this one and just buy one of the ones TEC is selling. Won't cost you any more by the time you buy the scope and bracket. And there is always the chance that you might turn up a Hungarian scope set. The rifle and scope would be a mismach, not as desirable as matching, but stil a representative specimen.
 
tiriaq said:
Get some really good copper cutting bore cleaner, and give the bore a real cleaning. What looks like a worn bore can often be a metal fouled bore. Common wipe it out with an oiled patch cleaning techniques won't lift built up metal fouling.

I would strongly suggest getting back to the old gentleman and find out if he has the scope. These were easily removed, and he may have it tucked away somewhere.

You were GIVEN an original sniper rifle, and you are contemplating breaking it for parts to cobble together a lookalike shooter? You don't have a scope with its bracket, you are going to have to buy that anyway, whether you fit it to this rifle or another. If you want a lookalike shooter, sell this one and just buy one of the ones TEC is selling. Won't cost you any more by the time you buy the scope and bracket. And there is always the chance that you might turn up a Hungarian scope set. The rifle and scope would be a mismach, not as desirable as matching, but stil a representative specimen.
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Yea im ether going to sell it as is or find a scope and try to clean up the bore with some JB bore brite paste and see how she shoots .. if im lucky the old guy might have the scope still ..
 
Bcviking said:
Any input would be great guys
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I'd try to restore it and look for the correct scope to out on it. For a comparison of markings and features, check the Russia - Milsurp Knowledge Library (click here)http://www.milsurps.com/content.php?r=126-russia

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1954 Mosin-Nagant M52 Hungarian Sniper Rifle (click here)http://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?p=1178

These are rarer and musch more valuable than the regular Mosin-Nagant M91-30 Sniper Riflehttp://www.milsurps.com/content.php...-M91-30-Sniper-Rifle-(Mfg-by-Ishevsk-Arsenal), particularly with U.S. buyers for some reason.

Regards,
Doug
 
Bcviking said:
Yea im ether going to sell it as is or find a scope and try to clean up the bore with some JB bore brite paste and see how she shoots .. if im lucky the old guy might have the scope still ..
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Many with less than perfect bore where sold with out the scope but if the guy might still have it it would be worth a serious scavenger hunt.
 
Bcviking said:
Yea im ether going to sell it as is or find a scope and try to clean up the bore with some JB bore brite paste and see how she shoots .. if im lucky the old guy might have the scope still ..
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That is really cool of that gentleman to give you that rifle!:)

However, please don't run any JB paste or bore brite down that bore, or any bore for that matter. Gale McMillan was against using it and so is Jim Hart.

Just try cleaning it with; Sweets (to remove the copper) Kroil or WD-40 (to remove the traces of ammonia) and Break Free (to lube and protect the metal.) Use clean patches to remove any excess when you transition from one stage to the next.

I spent two hours cleaning the copper streaks out of a 1935 Brazilian Mauser I bought last year. That was after I had already disassembled it and cleaned/oiled the metal already. When I was done it was immaculate and looked way better. It also shot a really tight group too!

For the worst fouling, I alternated between running patches soaked with Sweets down the bore and letting it sit for about 10 minutes. Then I ran a clean nylon brush soaked with Sweets gently down the bore for about 10 strokes. I'd then run a patch soaked with Rusty Duck black powder solvent down the bore and use the solvent to clean the brush, but you might not be able to find any of that stuff. Kroil or WD-40 would work also. I would follow up with a clean patch and repeat the process until I finally had clean patches. It seemed to take forever, but it was worth it.

Hopefully, it will turn out that the rifling isn't as bad as it looks to you right now.
 
You really want a mauser for that, I'll trade you my RC K98. Value-wise, the best thing you could do would be to sell or trade it on the EE. From a collecting and worth standpoint, the worst thing you could do would be to cannibalize it for parts to alter another Mosin. Why not put an ad on the EE and trade it for a Russian Mosin sniper repro?


Great Christmas gift either way!
 
revilo said:
You really want a mauser for that, I'll trade you my RC K98. Value-wise, the best thing you could do would be to sell or trade it on the EE. From a collecting and worth standpoint, the worst thing you could do would be to cannibalize it for parts to alter another Mosin. Why not put an ad on the EE and trade it for a Russian Mosin sniper repro?


Great Christmas gift either way!
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The rifle will not get cannibalized for parts.......... that was a idea before i knew it had a decent value. i allready have a nice RC K98 but i will keep yours in mind , im going to try to get my hands on the original scope if i cant find it it will go on the EE as is, im just not sure a fair asking price for it as it sits with no scope? and what would be a fair price if i find the scope??
 
Bcviking said:
The rifle will not get cannibalized for parts.......... that was a idea before i knew it had a decent value. i allready have a nice RC K98 but i will keep yours in mind , im going to try to get my hands on the original scope if i cant find it it will go on the EE as is, im just not sure a fair asking price for it as it sits with no scope? and what would be a fair price if i find the scope??
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I suggest that after you clean it well, you go shooting using the iron sight. That will give you an idea how the rifle group. Would be great to find the scope for it or an original russian one. If the rifle shoot good, a repro scope could be an alternative as well. You will have better value if the rifle shoot good so i would say that without scope, may worth 400$, with a vintage scope let's say 1000$ in my humble opinion. Great thing with your rifle is that the hard part(the scope mount) is already on so save a lot of trouble. Even with a repro scope, would make a very nice sniper. All depend on how the rifle shoot and what a buyer is willing to pay.
 
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