Cooeys - differences between models?

gunsaholic said:
Yeh, I have a 600 with the rabbit in the stock and I believe it is a walnut stock. Mine has a plastic trigger guard. The model 60's I have are metal trigger guards.
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Were those rabbit 600s walnut? My first new .22 in 1972 i thought it was hardwood, walnut stained, maybe i was wrong. Lot's of fun though.:agree:
 
HighOutput said:
Maybe one of you can help me with my Cooey. I have a model 82, I use to have a model 82 trainer (Full wood) and sold it. (I don't know why I did that, it was one of the nice examples I've seen around). Anyway, I purchased another model 82 from the EE for $60. But received a model 82 in a regular wood stock (not full wood). Did Cooey also make the model 82 like this or was this a stock swap?
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No it is not a swapped out stock. You could get the model 82 in full length stock or regular length. I have both models and I have seen 2 other regular stocked 82's in the past year that I could have bought but passed on. It is the same stock that is on the model 75 and 78 which was the platform for the model 82. My 82 regular stock has a hooded target sight on it and peep sight on the rear. And I can tell you I paid mnore than $60.00 so you got a deal unless it is all beat up.:sniper:
 
RememberTheSomme said:
Were those rabbit 600s walnut? My first new .22 in 1972 i thought it was hardwood, walnut stained, maybe i was wrong. Lot's of fun though.:agree:
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Yes, most of the rabbits were hardwood stock. I was kind of surprised that it looked like walnut so I took the buttplate off to have a look and the wood is dark like walnut, not just stained around the edges. I know I have had other discussions with gun enthusiasts about Cooey shotguns as to irregularities from what was thought the norm. We have found model 840's with walnut stocks when most were hardwood and steel receivers like the 84 when most 840's were alloy etc. So as has been said, there is lots about Cooey firearms that we doin't know.:confused:
 
I disagree with gunsaholic. I think he's confusing the model 78 and 82. The model 82 was only available originally in a full length stock. It was a contract with the canadian govt for a trainer for tha canadian army and the Royal canadian airforce cadets. Cooey received orders for 34,810. They made more than this and actually put ads in papers for purchase one for $9.95 or 2 for $18.00. Model 82 was made public in 1942.The model 78 is a 75 with a peep sight, as a matter of fact the same peep sight that was used on the 82.
Pic is of model 82 with peep sight-----Cowboy
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"...is it possable(SIC) to..." No.
The difference between most Cooey models is the stock. A 64 Deluxe, for example, is/was a 64 with pressed checkering on the stock. Same rifle otherwise.
 
Cowboy said:
I disagree with gunsaholic. I think he's confusing the model 78 and 82. The model 82 was only available originally in a full length stock. It was a contract with the canadian govt for a trainer for tha canadian army and the Royal canadian airforce cadets. Cooey received orders for 34,810. They made more than this and actually put ads in papers for purchase one for $9.95 or 2 for $18.00. Model 82 was made public in 1942.The model 78 is a 75 with a peep sight, as a matter of fact the same peep sight that was used on the 82.
Pic is of model 82 with peep sight-----Cowboy
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You can disagree all you want but I have the model 75, 78 and 82. As I said I have the model 82 in both versions, full length and regular length. I bought my regular length 82 at a gun auction where there were a lot of collectors. This collector who had passed away had over 500 guns and had many of them for years. He had 2 regular stocked model 82's in his collection. I paid $200.00 for this gun and I don't think other collectors would bid them up if the gun didn't exist. There was also one on Canada Gun auction last year that was regular length stock and I have seen another since. With the example the OP posted, that makes 4 I know of. So are we all wrong-I don't think so. And the Cooey model 39 and 75 are not the same stock unless you have the first year production model 75 and 78 which was also the Mohawk. Most model 75's and 78's have that hunch back design and the 39's are straight. No one has to agree with me but it's pretrty hard to argue when all these examples are sitting in my safe. :wave:
 
Nutshell time...

Winnipeg Toymaker said:
I will send you a nickle Camster....you want it in CASH or will a M/O work for you...lol...lol.
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Mr. Toymaker...if we actually had a "virtual" account I still owe you big $'s. I have (had) both (actually, the 39 arrived safely at it's new home Yesterday...first gun sale in over 25 years shooting...). They are identical rifles EXCEPT for the Barrel. Oddly enough, the barrel is where the distinguishing marks are...my '75 is old enough to have the same (only not so shiny) "non-humped" stock as the 39.


gunsaholic said:
I forgot to add- I can't post pics but if someone wants to I can send them pics of the model 39, 75 78 and 82 if they want to post them.
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I will gladly post pics on photobucket! Esp. to "further the Cooey Cause".

I haven't seen an '82 or, 78 in "real life" but, have seen a 39 with the peep sight attached. I have seen 4 different stocks that were strapped on 39's and, 75's. (Thank you for the pictures Cowboy)

So, in a nutshell...remove the Barrel and, stock from any of these rifles, your left with a "tube" of a receiver (none of mine have been "marked" or "Stamped"), a bolt and, a trigger group. Could any of us tell them apart?

I'm thinking the "peep" sights on some might "seperate" the 78's or, 82's?

Slap in a Barrel (any Barrel 39, 75, 78, 82) and stock (same model range) and, the peep/barrel/wood combination is what differentiates them?
 
Camster--if you PM me your email address I will take some pics and send them to you.I would appreciate it. Just to add, I know about the info that Cowboy is referring to as far as Govt. contract etc. for the model 82. It is in the "Cooey Book" by John Belton. Mr.Belton says that there is a lot to learn about the Cooey Firearms history and that he has not seen all Cooey examples. In fact, he acknowledged there are models on Cooey paper weights and belt buckles that he has not seen. He also states in the model 82 write up that a number of variations exist. The 82 regular stocked version I have has a longer barrel than the 78 and a different front target sight. Because of the barrel, the gun has a noticeable difference in weight.
 
I checked the guns and the 78 and 82 have the same length barrel. The 75 has a shorter barrel. The front sight on the regular stocked 82 is different than the sight on the 78. Anyhow I sent Camster some pictures so hopefully he is able to post them.
 
Sorry guys, I was just asking a simple question, I didn't mean to spark a big debate. I thought is was a stock swap at first, but I now have found many pictures of them throughout the net, that makes me think it was sold that way. Either way, I love those Cooey's. Here is a picture of the one I purchased on the EE.

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It's not really a heated debate. This is one way for others to find out info about Cooey firearms. Through sharing of info and experiences a little more light is shed on the history of Cooey. Camster was kind enough to offer to try and post some pics of some of the models of Cooeys that I have so hopefully he can get them to upload so others can view them and maybe share in some information.
 
I have a Model 82 that appears identical to HighOutput's pictured above. I asked my dad about it, and he could never remember it having the forward wood, or the steel bands.

FWIW,

GMC
 
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