looking for first long range rifle

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hey everyone

I am looking to get into some long range shooting. If I am to get one I would like to use it for hunting purpose's aswell, so REALLY heavey guns are out of the question.

I've been looking into,

Weatherby Accumark
Remington Sendero

For Caliber I guessing 300 Win
seems like a good all arouder for hunting and at the range


Is there any other rifles you would recommend?
How do these one's perform? Pros and cons

cheers, [R]
 
See, not enough info to base it on.
What is "long range" to you?
Do you currently shoot or compete at that range?
Do you currently shoot anything?
Are you comfortable with that amount of recoil in your first rifle?
Have you hunted before and what did you use?

So what is long range?
Is it 400yds? a .308 will do that.
Is it 1000yds? a .308 will do that.

hunting? What range? What animal?
Is it 150yds? a .243, 257, 264, 270, 284, .308, .30-06, etc will do that.
Is it 200yds? a .243, 257, 264, 270, 284, .308, .30-06, etc will do that.
is it 300yds? a .243, 257, 264, 270, 284, .308, .30-06, etc will do that.
is it 500yds? a 270, 284, .308, .30-06, etc will do that.
is it 600yds? a 270, .308, .30-06, etc will do that.

See, I have covered most hunting ranges and effective target ranges and still haven't succumbed to "magnumitis". However, if you feel you need a .300WM to hunt, then go for it.
EVERYTHING you want to do can be covered by the boring, "everyone's got one", .30-06. Except that lately it seems that "everyone's" got a .300WM, maybe that's the next "boring" cartridge. Case closed.


EDIT: just noticed where this post was, removed the SKS and the .30-30. Definitely NOT precision.
RW
 
underated,

I have a rem model 700 sendero in .264 win mag. I bought the gun speciffically for my family's bi-annual antelope hunts. I have put just under 500 rounds through it at the range, and it has been very accurate and hass exceeded my expectations for it.

I also took an antelope buck, and 2 antelope does with it in Wyoming this year, at ranges not exceeding 300 yards.

I took 3 different whitetail bucks and one doe in Manitoba with it this year.

It is a more than capable long range rifle, and that speciffic cartridge, like all others, does a very fine job of dispatching animals.

CARRYING A RIFLE THAT HEAVY IS NOT FUN THOUGH! BUY A SAKO FINNLITE F85 IN 270 WSM! YOU WON'T REGRET IT!
 
Rookie

I am currently shooting a x-bolt 270WSM.
long range for me would start around 400 and hopefully go up as my skill improves to the 1000 yard mark
I was thinking 300WM cause I am also getting into hand loading and there is a wide bullet and powder selection is play with
besides its got good down range ballistics and it will serve as another hunting cartridge when /or if I need it.

Is there any rifles you would recommend that wont completely crush the bank 3000+
that will serve great off the bench and good in the field. This gun will most likely see 80/20 bench to field

thanks, [R]
 
I have yet to choose a long range rifle myself but will be building one when the time comes. I have, however, spent the last year researching long range. This doesn't make up for the lack of experience, but I may be able to help. If you are looking for a rifle that will take you to the 1000yd mark I think you should look into a .308. There are many many different makes, and weights of bullets. If you will be reloading you will also find that .308 cases are cheaper compared to many others. There has been tons of info and research in the the common .308 and it is a great round. If you are looking for a hunting rifle as well, the .308 is capable of taking deer, elk, moose, etc. As for a decent precision factory rifle that won't having eating from the soupkitchens, you may want to look into a Sako TRG-22, Reminton SPS 5R, Savage 12 LRP. These are all great factory rifles that will perform well. None of which are real "heavy." They may be a few pounds heavier than the average hunting rifle, but nothing that should discomfort you too much.

there is much research to be done when getting into long range. But don't forget about a good piece of glass to mount. A great rifle won't hit a target if you have a scope that can't perform equally as well.

Hope that helps a bit.
 
"Is there any rifles you would recommend that wont completely crush the bank 3000+
that will serve great off the bench and good in the field. This gun will most likely see 80/20 bench to field"

Bench to hunting is always going to be a compromise. I've got the same problem as I'm trying to find the same rifle. Field ideal is lightweight, easy carry (shorter barrel) and enough caliber for what you shoot. For bench, weight and barrel length don't matter but caliber for distance does...so does BARREL LIFE. A Magnum is done after 800-1200 rounds, which is not that many shots if you will shoot at the range too.

A .308 is the most ideal caliber for bench and hunting. As another poster wrote, he has used it for everything and didn't succumb to magnumitis. I had a .308 Savage 10FP for the range and a .308 Ruger Laminate Compact (6lb, 16.5" barrel) with a Vais muzzlebrake for hunting. Then due to new baby, I got rid of both to find one rifle that does it all. I settled on a Savage 10 Precision Carbine in .308 or the Remington 700 SPS Tactical. Although my first choice was the Savage, I traded my Ruger for the Remington (because the trader included his Horus Vision scope). Nothing beats the Ruger as a carry/bush/truck rifle. It was perfect...but on the range, the light sporter barrel heats very fast.

For the range a heavy barrel is a must. I've realized I dream of 1000 yard shooting but how often will I? But 1-300 for sure. Hunting for sure. A 20" tactical heavy barrel is great for the range and more than accurate for hunting (0-800yards). I also realized I'm not a freehold shooter, so I'll hunt sniper style with a bipod, use a tree or whatever else is around. So, a 8-10lb rifle is fine. A modern .308 bullet will take down almost anything in North America, especially Alberta (with proper shot placement), plus great for the range and 3000+ round barrel life.

ONE RIFLE FOR BOTH:
1. Savage 10 Precision Carbine
2. Reminton 700 SPS Tactical
3. Savage 10FP or BA

I wouldn't get any light barreled hunting rifle to use for the range. You'll get frustrated by how much the groups open up after only a few shots (barrel heat). If you can afford both, get a Savage Weather Warrior in 300WM for hunting and a .308 tactical precision rifle for the range.
 
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Not that any of the others are wrong but you have a look at a T3 in a 6.5x 55. The high B.C. bullets that are available in 6.5mm can make for a fairly long range hunting rifle with a fair bit of barrel life as well. The 6.5s are very at home on the range but as has been noted you will not be able to shoot long strings. No one gun will be as good as two different guns made for a special job.
 
thman00 said:
I just finnished building my long range rifle a few months ago and wow am i ever happy with it. I went this a Springfield M1A .308 and through some minor add ons turned it into a really cool black rifle. I am new as well at long range shooting but i am very accurate out to 800m so far and yes i can hunt with it too.

http://troyind.com/%20/troy-weapon-upgrades/troy-m14-s-a-s-s-sniper-system
Click to expand...

Really like that Troy chassis, can you possibly post some pics of your final configuration and the specifics of the components?

One day I would love to build a long range precision firearm.

Also a newbie from Langley!

Thanks
 
I say use the .300WM, use heavy bullets loaded stoutly, keep the rifle fairly light and practice lots. :p

Like others have been saying, the caliber is almost a formality, you can use a .243 or a .338. A miss is a miss with any caliber. The 7mm have some nice bullet choices with high BC and some 6.5's also. You speak of a budget , when you start reloading a .300WM compared to say a 6.5 x 55 , you will notice some money getting eaten up in components pretty quick when your charges are higher and bullets cost more.

Pick what feels comfortable in your hands and your shoulder, if the rifle is comfy that is half the battle, the other half is learning to shoot.

IMO I honestly can't figure out why some would want to kick the hell out of their body with a large caliber for range/target. The paper is already dead and your shoulder soon after. 100 rounds of practice may be sensitive the next day. :p

The rig you want to build for the money is easily done. Talk to Jerry at Mystic Precision, he is very knowledgeable and helpful, plus.........................he shoots a .223 with accuracy to a mile. ;)

Personally, I'd go with something based on the .308 Winchester case. it's like pressing the easy button.
 
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