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Mark S.

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You guys helped me last summer when I was all set to buy a shotgun but ended up getting a pistol instead haha. Long story short, I was basically sold on the Beretta 391 URIKA II ($999). The main reason being over/under guns seem to be $1800-$2500 and that is too much.

However, I saw Fabarm makes some reasonable priced over under's called "ELOS". The few reviews I've found seemed extremely positive, and the reviewers commented on the guns having high end features and build quality similar to the more expensive Browining and similar guns.

I do not hunt, this would be for clays specifically.

Any input on Fabarm? It seems like for around $1200 I can get a great O/U. Am I missing anything?

Thanks,

Mark
 
Mark , spend the same money or a little more and buy a better used gun . Or go for the Berretta gas gun . The cheap o/u new will lose a lot of value as soon as you take it out of the store . Its priced to sell , try to find parts for it before you buy it . Ask for a spair set of fireing pins for the gun before purchase of the gun see what thay say . You are looking to shoot a lot of shells thru a gun built to shoot a few shells with no trouble . Shoot lots and it will be broke down in no time .
 
amaturetargetshooter said:
Mark , spend the same money or a little more and buy a better used gun . Or go for the Berretta gas gun . The cheap o/u new will lose a lot of value as soon as you take it out of the store . Its priced to sell , try to find parts for it before you buy it . Ask for a spair set of fireing pins for the gun before purchase of the gun see what thay say . You are looking to shoot a lot of shells thru a gun built to shoot a few shells with no trouble . Shoot lots and it will be broke down in no time .
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Thanks for the advice. The Beretta 391 urika II is still very high on my list. You seem to suggest the Fabarm isn't built as well though, is that for sure the case? I was reading this review and the reviewer seemed to think it was built just as well as much more expensive guns:

http://www.sportinggun.co.uk/guns/447994/Fabarm_Elos_shotgun_review.html

Thanks,

Mark
 
I've had a Fabarm for 5 yrs now. It's a martial pro pump and not a hunting rig as the barrel is only 14" long. But as far as manufactures quality, it's hard to beat. I have 500 rounds +\- through it without a FTE or FTF. It's been a dream to own and the only downside to Fabarm I have found is that there arent as many aftermarket parts as there are for others like Remington. Not sure if this helps but I prefer a pump over a auto as a pump will feed a wider range of under powered ammo.
 
I can't speak for the Fabarm O/U

But I will say that I have 4 different pump 12 gauges, one of which is a Fabarm Martial 14". If I could only keep one, it would be it - hands down. Love it.
 
500 rounds with NFF, dah, most of us will shoot that on a weekend shoot! My Beretta 390 had 25,024 (no cleanning) with only 20 FtF mainly due to cartridges that were not tapered. My 391 Optima Sporter has not been cleanned since 2003!

Fabarm, second or third rate Italian manufacturer with no residual value once purchased!

Regards,
Henry;)
 
Mr.4x4 said:
I've had a Fabarm for 5 yrs now. It's a martial pro pump and not a hunting rig as the barrel is only 14" long. But as far as manufactures quality, it's hard to beat. I have 500 rounds +\- through it without a FTE or FTF. It's been a dream to own and the only downside to Fabarm I have found is that there arent as many aftermarket parts as there are for others like Remington. Not sure if this helps but I prefer a pump over a auto as a pump will feed a wider range of under powered ammo.
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The OP is looking for a Clay gun. Do you think a Fabarm "martial pro" 14" would make a good Clay gun? Or are you saying that the Fabarm is better than a norinco?

To the OP what Clay games will you be shooting? Because it will be very difficult to find one gun that shoots them all well.
You didn't really specify in your original post.
 
Win/64 said:
The OP is looking for a Clay gun. Do you think a Fabarm "martial pro" 14" would make a good Clay gun? Or are you saying that the Fabarm is better than a norinco?

To the OP what Clay games will you be shooting? Because it will be very difficult to find one gun that shoots them all well.
You didn't really specify in your original post.
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Read my whole post before commenting. I stated that it wasn't what he was looking for. I was commenting on the over all quality and dependability of Fabarm products in my experience.

Do you own a Fabarm? If so please contribute.
 
Win/64 said:
The OP is looking for a Clay gun. Do you think a Fabarm "martial pro" 14" would make a good Clay gun? Or are you saying that the Fabarm is better than a norinco?

To the OP what Clay games will you be shooting? Because it will be very difficult to find one gun that shoots them all well.
You didn't really specify in your original post.
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Sorry I should have been more specific. I just want a good, reliable, gun for shooting what I think is traps (various stations, kind of like golf with a shotgun haha). I always confuse skeet and trap. I would like a gun that will work well for any sort of similar game, if that's possible. I cannot afford multiple guns for small differences in the games and whatnot. I have no interest in ever hunting.

Like I said I was dead set on the Beretta 391 URIKA II Synthetic ($999 seemed like a great price) but I bought a pistol instead haha. Now I am thinking about picking up a shotgun for the spring and I noticed Fabarm has some O/U guns for fairly cheap. The reviews I've found seem positive. My main concern with a semi is cleaning it, but I prefer the single barrel style and less recoil of the semi. I have shot both. But if you can shoot 25,000 rounds through a 391 before cleaning it, that doesn't sound too bad haha. I probably wouldn't wait that long, but it speaks for their durability for sure.

I hadn't considered resale either, which is a good point. It seems the 391 will hold its value a lot better.

Thanks,

Mark
 
Give any 300 series Beretta a good WET dose of BreakFree on ALL metal parts, and you will do thousands of rounds with little or no maintenance (CLEANING), just a few drops of BreakFree to keep it wet. My gun will shoot 2 1/2 dram trainning loads as well as the fastest steel loads and eject the empties in the same area. So since 2003, it has functionned reliably with all loads with no teardown, cleaning just a few drops of BreakFree.

Need more info on the 300 series of Beretta's: www.shotgunreport.com

The only mod on my 391:Cole Gun trigger group at 2Lbs.

Not bad for 7 years of heavy hunting loads and many winter target loads with little if any maintenance!

Regards,
Henry;)
 
hnachaj said:
Give any 300 series Beretta a good WET dose of BreakFree on ALL metal parts, and you will do thousands of rounds with little or no maintenance (CLEANING), just a few drops of BreakFree to keep it wet. My gun will shoot 2 1/2 dram trainning loads as well as the fastest steel loads and eject the empties in the same area. So since 2003, it has functionned reliably with all loads with no teardown, cleaning just a few drops of BreakFree.

Need more info on the 300 series of Beretta's: www.shotgunreport.com

The only mod on my 391:Cole Gun trigger group at 2Lbs.

Not bad for 7 years of heavy hunting loads and many winter target loads with little if any maintenance!

Regards,
Henry;)
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What does this have to do with a Fabarm O/U?
 
Mark , I have been shooting clay games since 1978 , I would sugest a trap gun with a adjustable stock and 30" barrel with screw in chocks . The trap gun alows you to move the point of impact up a little to shoot trap and skeet , and lower a little for sporting . More and more trap stocks on the skeet fields every day . And the barrels are longer and longer on the skeet field aswell .
 
Go back to your first idea and get a beretta 391. Go easy on Break Free and keep it away from your lab rat. I read that if you drench your rat in that stuff it may be harmful to his/her health.
 
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