Norinco A or B

[savage express]

Tried the search and here I am.
What is the difference between the Norinco CQA and the CQB?

 

[wherermykeys]

No difference. CQB stands for Close Quarters Battle, and the Norinco is named the "CQA" probably because they wanted it to sound cool with the CQ in there. People just wind up calling it the CQB on here.

It's the same gun: 14.5" barrel, flat-top receiver, detachable carry handle.

 

[AK]

CQ is supposed to be a translation to "16" in English.

 

[Spearhunter]

CQ is supposed to be a translation to "16" in English.

LOL. Wonder if it's true.

 

[wherermykeys]

CQ is supposed to be a translation to "16" in English.

Really? Phonetically in Cantonese or Mandarin, it doesn't and there is no alphabet in the Chinese language so I'm not sure how else it would be translated.

I'd be interested to know if this really is the case.

 

[butane]

I thought the CQA were the first ones in the country and the CQB was the newest lot in the country with better finish etc.....not sure on this though

 

[AK]

Really? Phonetically in Cantonese or Mandarin, it doesn't and there is no alphabet in the Chinese language so I'm not sure how else it would be translated.

I'd be interested to know if this really is the case.

I recall reading this somewhere but I can't recall exactly where. I'll check my literature when I get home but I thought it might have been Jane's Infantry Weapons or The Black Rifle.

 

[Leg]

CQ is supposed to be a translation to "16" in English.

Then explain how the 20" model is also a "CQ", CQ311.

 

[1fastjeep]

I think CQ stands for "Chang Qiang" (long rifle) in Mandarin...

 

[enefgee]

I think CQ stands for "Chang Qiang" (long rifle) in Mandarin...

Didn't think Mandarin was widely used in the PRC.

 

[1fastjeep]

Didn't think Mandarin was widely used in the PRC.

 

[Clubhopper]

mandarin is the dominant language in the prc

 

[AK]

Then explain how the 20" model is also a "CQ", CQ311.

"16" as in "M16", ie. the rifle they were copying. Get it?

No I haven't checked yet.

 

[AK]

The Black Rifle by Ed Ezell, page 328:

""CQ" is a transliteration of "16" in Chinese; a direct, blatant and unauthorized copy of the M16A1 rifle. The "CQ" rifles are selective fire, with a right hand rifling twist of 1 turn in 12 inches. Apparently this far Norinco only makes the regular 20-round magazine. The "CQ" has all the features of its US counterpart, including the bolt forward assist. The only immediate apparent differences are a distinctly curved and decorated plastic pistol grip and a round, finger-grooved handguard. All the plastic furniture has a grey, rather than black, appearance.

A semi-auto sporting version of the "CQ" is also offered, called the Norinco model 311.

The Norinco 5.56mm ball round (Type "CJ"; headstamp JS + 2 numerals) features a 55-grain bullet like the M193 with a listed muzzle velocity (V25) of 965 meters per second 3,166 fps)."

 

[Leg]

"16" as in "M16", ie. the rifle they were copying. Get it?

No I haven't checked yet.

Aaaaahh.... Makes sense i guess.

 

[AK]

Now whether Ezell was correct is another matter!

 

[1fastjeep]

CQ does not resemble the pronunciation of "16" in chionese in any way.

Why do I know that? Because I ma chionese, me no speakee engrish, therefore I must speak perfect mandarin.

16 is spelled shí lìu in pinyin.

 

[commissar]

CQ stands for Chang Qing Arsenal ( in Chinese writing: 长庆机械厂 ), one of the Norinco's arsenals in China.
-A stands for model A

 

[twyeh]

That is correct, Factory 216.
CQ is the old designation to the old 四川長慶機器廠
Today is 四川華慶機械有限責任公司
http://www.schq.cn/

CQ stands for Chang Qing Arsenal ( in Chinese writing: 长庆机械厂 ), one of the Norinco's arsenals in China.
-A stands for model A

 

[1fastjeep]

CQ stands for Chang Qing Arsenal ( in Chinese writing: 长庆机械厂 ), one of the Norinco's arsenals in China.
-A stands for model A

arrr, make more sense now...