Deer menace Gulf Islands habitat

DrJitney

Regular
EE Expired
Rating - 100%
54   0   0
Location
Northlands, BC
For pete's sake, open it up to hunting. I'll buy 10 tags and have them filled in an hour! I'll even pay for lodging and restaurants. It's called tourism. Even a youth hunt would be great!


By SANDRA McCULLOCH, Timescolonist.com
3797385.bin



Deer are munching vegetation on some Gulf Islands to the point where they're changing the environment, such as driving away songbirds that rely on vegetation for food and nesting, a University of B.C. study has found.

"This in the end is a social decision on how we manage the environment," said Peter Arcese, a professor in the faculty of forestry and co-author of a study published Monday in the journal Biological Conservation.

Researchers looked at the density of blacktail deer on 18 southern Gulf and San Juan Islands and found that the number of birds and amount of vegetation decreased on islands with higher deer densities.

Deer populations grow when there's lots of food and few predators such as cougars, bears and wolves, said Arcese. When predators are hunted to extinction on islands, there's an indirect effect on deer populations.

"The public needs to have a discussion about what they value in the environment and how they're going to maintain it in the future, and that may well include managing deer populations," Arcese said.

Eighty-five people from five islands gathered recently at a forum on Mayne Island held to discuss options, said David Maude of Mayne Island in an email.

A hunting ban was imposed on blacktail deer on the island in the 1970s. Things got complicated in the 1990s, when European fallow deer escaped from a deer farm. Both species flourished thanks to the greenery in gardens and growth in the forest.

Arcese told those attending the forum that Mayne Island can reasonably sustain 230 deer. The current number of blacktail deer there is believed to be in the thousands, while fallow deer number in the hundreds.

Both Mayne and Sidney islands are in dire need of intervention because both fallow and blacktail-deer populations are exploding, Arcese said.

Fallow deer are now migrating from Mayne to Galiano Island.

Maude said he hopes representatives from the provincial government will attend the next forum on Mayne to take part in discussions.

The deer aren't a problem on all the islands: Portland, Russell and Moresby islands haven't had deer in recent memory.

"The absence of deer entirely isn't the natural situation either," said Arcese.

"We've probably always had some deer but they've likely been at dramatically lower density."

smcculloch@timescolonist.com

© Copyright (c) The Victoria Times Colonist


Read more: http://www.timescolonist.com/technology/Deer+menace+Gulf+Islands+habitat/4126622/story.html#ixzz1BPx7g0s7
 
That stock photo looks a little fallow deer-ish to me. ;) The population levels are definately an issue, but the heart of the problem is access to private land. There is very little to no public land on the gulf islands and the majority of the landowners are not exactly 'hunter friendly'! In the end its their loss, they can live on an island full of deer, bare ground, mature trees and 10' fences around thier gardens. :rolleyes:
Interestingly, the feral pigs on the Hawaiian islands are also responsible for the loss of indigenous bird populations.
 
Someone shot the Wolf on Saturna Island a few years back.
Sheesh what do these wealthy lawyers and doctors that are new to the Islands want?
The Islands are small and pockets of expensive homes dot them .
You couldnt swing a dead cat by its' tail and not hit something or someones home !:popCorn:
These types of articles only stir the pot is what I see.
 
Think dropping a couple dozen Russian Piglets into the mix would work?

Might....:D

Wolves mebbe? They say they stay put. That's what they said when they put them into Yellowstone, anyways...

Cheers
Trev
 
Yes and wolves were never an indigenous species on Vancouver Island but they planted them there to help the deer herds or so that was the story told to me by my Grandfather who lived in Nanaimo. I know it sure aggrivated the hell out of him. I can still remember his bumper sticker "Eat Vancouver Island Deer, 5000 wolves can't be wrong".................. LMFAO!!!
 
the other side is that once the population hits a point, you're going to get diseases, and poor animals- thin , birdlike bones, marbled meat that the predators wouldn't touch, and genetic deformations- either open it up to hunting( bow if you don't care for guns) or do a government cull( which all the treehuggers will LOVE) - JUST FOR THE SAKE OF THE ANimals health alone
 
I think at least part of the problem is that Sydney Island became a federal park or a provincial park (can't remember which) and hunting is not permitted in such parks. Prior to that there was a limited entry hunt every year.

I think that wolves are indigenous to Vancouver Island. I recall elderly friends talking about wolves being trapped on the island in what must have been the 1930s

cheers mooncoon
 
Yes and wolves were never an indigenous species on Vancouver Island but they planted them there to help the deer herds or so that was the story told to me by my Grandfather who lived in Nanaimo. I know it sure aggrivated the hell out of him. I can still remember his bumper sticker "Eat Vancouver Island Deer, 5000 wolves can't be wrong".................. LMFAO!!!

Wrong. They are completely natural and have evolved on the Island long enough to be considered a very distinct subspecies from the mainland wolf.

Vancouver Island wolf
Canis lupus crassodon
 
hunting.gif
Hunting
Portions of this park are open to hunting for specific species. Hunters must have valid licences and tags. Please refer to current printed Hunting and Trapping Regulations and Synopsis publication for closures and regulations

http://www.env.gov.bc.ca/bcparks/explore/parkpgs/sydney/

Page 4 - top left hand corner- Hunting Sidney Isl
http://www.env.gov.bc.ca/fw/wildlife/hunting/regulations/1012/docs/region1.pdf

I think at least part of the problem is that Sydney Island became a federal park or a provincial park (can't remember which) and hunting is not permitted in such parks. Prior to that there was a limited entry hunt every year.

I think that wolves are indigenous to Vancouver Island. I recall elderly friends talking about wolves being trapped on the island in what must have been the 1930s

cheers mooncoon
 
IIRC the LEH allocation for the park went to the FN.

There are lots of Blacktail hunting opportunities on the southern/northern gulf islands. The opportunities are not exploited.
 
The same problem exists on the Haida Gwai as well. I spoke with a Species At Risk Bioligist in the Haida Gwai last year at length about the problem. He indicated they are considering hunting year round to the introduction of a predator other than the black bear that already exists. Coyotes, wolves and cougars apparently have never been on the islands. He said that introducing a predator to keep deer numbers down does come with its own problems and complications as well. The numbers of deer on the some of the islands are so high that they there eating their way out of a home to the point of putting some species of flora and fauna on the island into extinction. The heavy snow two years ago dropped the numbers some what but he said that they will bounce back within a couple of years.

BTW there used to be Caribou on the islands untill the last one known to have been seen and shot was in, I believe was 1906.
 
The same problem exists on the Haida Gwai as well. I spoke with a Species At Risk Bioligist in the Haida Gwai last year at length about the problem. He indicated they are considering hunting year round to the introduction of a predator other than the black bear that already exists. Coyotes, wolves and cougars apparently have never been on the islands. He said that introducing a predator to keep deer numbers down does come with its own problems and complications as well. The numbers of deer on the some of the islands are so high that they there eating their way out of a home to the point of putting some species of flora and fauna on the island into extinction. The heavy snow two years ago dropped the numbers some what but he said that they will bounce back within a couple of years.

BTW there used to be Caribou on the islands untill the last one known to have been seen and shot was in, I believe was 1906.

I vote for hunting and cougars :D
 
Out of curiosity, if a cull is instated, what exactly will the COs do? Trap them and shoot on crown land? If there are "several thousand" deer, and the desired number is 230, how will they go about hunting deer deep into private land?

Cheers,
Sand
 
The moment someone suggests hunting as a solution, a "save the island deer" group will pop up overnight. These people would see the deer die from starvation & disease do to overpopulation rather than being "murdered" by hunters. Of course, "public safety" will also be brought up to keep hunting from being part of the solution.

Given most (all?) gulf island lands are private, park or native I can't see a cull happening. Too bad for the deer and the habitat.
 
IIRC the LEH allocation for the park went to the FN.

I believe you are correct. I find it highly odd that the First Nations are given an exclusive Heritage Hunt for Fallow Deer, a species introduced only recently by European settlers. Doesn't quite seem like it is based on heritage. Hunt all the Blacktail please, but Fallow? I wonder who made that decision.
 
Back
Top Bottom