Pics of my Kar98K, also found a rifle in a buddy's grandfathers basement.
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It's a Portuguese Vergueiro, converted to 7.92x57 from a 6.5 cartridge. Luckily it still retains the original swinging floor plate. Are the numbers all matching? Quite often, found in that condition they are. That stock looks like someone used sand paper on it. To bad.
Everything that we could see was all numbers matching. It's missing the end cap piece for the bolt. Is it a collectable rifle?
The stock actually looked very good, didn't seem like it had been touched. I think you are right about the 7.92X57. so it shoots the same ammo as my mauser but making sure it's the north american loads right?
The stock actually looked very good, didn't seem like it had been touched. I think you are right about the 7.92X57. so it shoots the same ammo as my mauser but making sure it's the north american loads right?
Nice old Mauser!
Yes, it is a 1904. Although it is stamped 6.5 on the side of the action, it will very likely be 7.92x7 or 8mm Mauser, whatever you choose to call it. If you do find the parts to complete the bolt, be very, very careful about how you put it back together. It can cost you an eye! I know about the difficult part firsthand. IIRC, there is a good step-by-step tutor somewhere on the 'net, telling you how to do it correctly.
**These rifles are a prime example showing that you can't go by what is stamped on the action or barrel to determine the caliber. I have one of these little rifles in excellent condition. I actually found a nice bayonet to go with it too.
Yes, it is a 1904. Although it is stamped 6.5 on the side of the action, it will very likely be 7.92x7 or 8mm Mauser, whatever you choose to call it. If you do find the parts to complete the bolt, be very, very careful about how you put it back together. It can cost you an eye! I know about the difficult part firsthand. IIRC, there is a good step-by-step tutor somewhere on the 'net, telling you how to do it correctly.
**These rifles are a prime example showing that you can't go by what is stamped on the action or barrel to determine the caliber. I have one of these little rifles in excellent condition. I actually found a nice bayonet to go with it too.
It will definitely be an 8x57 now; these were not made as a short rifle, only as a rifle and carbine, with the carbines being summa *** raries. These originally had a 29.13-inch barrel and that is how they served through the Great War. In 1937, surviving rifles were sent to Germany and reworked into Short Rifles, which is what this one is. Barrels and stocks were docked, barrels line-bored and rerifled and rechambered, complete rifles refinished to "as new". The very distinctive foresight wings were installed at that time.
These are often found with perfect bores and they can shoot very, very well indeed. They have a hinged floorplate with a quick-release button inside the triggerguard, just like the really expensive sporting rifles.
As far as strength is concerned, they can handle anything remotely sane. The Portuguese loading for the Bala M937 was a 196-grain boat-tailed bullet, running not far from 2700 ft/sec: very steamy.
The action on these is as smooth as on the fabled 1903 Mannlicher-Schoenauer; you won't find a smoother action on anything built under $4,000, so enjoy it.
MOST of the rifle is actually off-the-shelf Mauser 98, with mainly the receiver and bolt being a distinctive design, with a dedicated stock to accommodate the changes. The action was designed by a Portuguese officer named Vergueiro and features the fastest disassembly of any rifle ever built.....if you know the trick. This rifle is missing the cocking-piece and (quite likely) the safety. Safety seems to be standard 98 Mauser, but the cocking-piece is pure Vergueiro. Once you get the hang of it, you can strip the bolt down in about 3 seconds flat and reassemble it in about 5 seconds.
The rifles originally were built on contract in Germany in 1904 and feature the very highest of pre-Great-War craftsmanship. They saw some service in the Great War (Portugal was an ally of Great Britain since before the Spanish Armada), but not a lot because Britain could not supply the special ammunition and the Germans, displaying a typically Teutonic lack of humour, refused to sell the Portugese any more ammo to shoot at Germans with. Just no sense of ha-ha, some folks! The Portuguese Brigade (actually a Battalion) were given Lee-Enfields, Vickers guns, Lewises and the like, all in .303, trading their beautifully-made Vergueiros for the new equipment. Britain sent quite a few of the small number of Portuguese rifles to South Africa for use against the Kaiserliche Schutztruppe in East Africa, where they sometimes turn up with German factory markings, Portuguese ownership markings, British proof markings and South African issue markings, all on the same rifle. Talk about history, all in one piece!
BTW, the bayonets for these were serialled to the rifles and are a beautifully-made lightweight piece.
Epps MAY have your cocking-piece.
Hope this helps.
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These are often found with perfect bores and they can shoot very, very well indeed. They have a hinged floorplate with a quick-release button inside the triggerguard, just like the really expensive sporting rifles.
As far as strength is concerned, they can handle anything remotely sane. The Portuguese loading for the Bala M937 was a 196-grain boat-tailed bullet, running not far from 2700 ft/sec: very steamy.
The action on these is as smooth as on the fabled 1903 Mannlicher-Schoenauer; you won't find a smoother action on anything built under $4,000, so enjoy it.
MOST of the rifle is actually off-the-shelf Mauser 98, with mainly the receiver and bolt being a distinctive design, with a dedicated stock to accommodate the changes. The action was designed by a Portuguese officer named Vergueiro and features the fastest disassembly of any rifle ever built.....if you know the trick. This rifle is missing the cocking-piece and (quite likely) the safety. Safety seems to be standard 98 Mauser, but the cocking-piece is pure Vergueiro. Once you get the hang of it, you can strip the bolt down in about 3 seconds flat and reassemble it in about 5 seconds.
The rifles originally were built on contract in Germany in 1904 and feature the very highest of pre-Great-War craftsmanship. They saw some service in the Great War (Portugal was an ally of Great Britain since before the Spanish Armada), but not a lot because Britain could not supply the special ammunition and the Germans, displaying a typically Teutonic lack of humour, refused to sell the Portugese any more ammo to shoot at Germans with. Just no sense of ha-ha, some folks! The Portuguese Brigade (actually a Battalion) were given Lee-Enfields, Vickers guns, Lewises and the like, all in .303, trading their beautifully-made Vergueiros for the new equipment. Britain sent quite a few of the small number of Portuguese rifles to South Africa for use against the Kaiserliche Schutztruppe in East Africa, where they sometimes turn up with German factory markings, Portuguese ownership markings, British proof markings and South African issue markings, all on the same rifle. Talk about history, all in one piece!
BTW, the bayonets for these were serialled to the rifles and are a beautifully-made lightweight piece.
Epps MAY have your cocking-piece.
Hope this helps.
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I have no idea what morally-handicapped clown programmed this thing's automagical "change the spelling" function, but it seems okay on this board to tell someone STFU or to tell someone to go and fuq themself....... but you can NOT spell out a perfectly clean and clear Latin word such as "see you emm": with.
I'll say it again in baby-talk: there are very few to be found.
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I'll say it again in baby-talk: there are very few to be found.
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The last pic is a Port but aren't the first ones an Oberndorf 1944 K98k semi-kriegsmodell rifle? You can still pick up original sight hoods for them. The stock does look sanded though. Are WaA stamps still visible on the right side of the butt?
no Stamps On Thebutt. Only A Triangle On The Bottom. Should I Do Any Thing About The Stock? Didnt know it has been messed with. id like to fix that large scratch on the left side of the butt. As For The Sight Hood. I Have One But Took It Off After I Missed A Buck. Casts A Shadow On The Sight. Will Never Again Use The Sight Hood.
Parts for the Port rifle may still be available at Sarco USA. I managed to pick some bolt shrouds, safeties and bolt heads from them a few years ago to put a couple of similar rifles back into operation. Well worth it to get the parts.
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The bluing on the buttplate is also a giveaway that it is an East German Refurb (byf44).
yes it is a east german refurb, Next best thing to a real untouched nazi mauser, not a RC. 75% off of what value?? it's a east german refurb nazi k98!! thats it's value! i love it! all the bluing is prestine! it looks like a brand new rifle yet it's 50 years old!
I didn't have 2000$ for a beat up original phosphate s**tty looking nazi mauser. now i'm going to get burned lol
I didn't have 2000$ for a beat up original phosphate s**tty looking nazi mauser. now i'm going to get burned lol
I didn't say it was no good, in fact they are great shooters and sharp looking rifles as well. Just that here in Canada we see so few original matching mausers but when they were sold as surplus they were real plentiful and real cheap. And way better than a completely mismatched Russian capture.
Although personally I like late war k-98's, phosphate finish, chattery laminate stocks and all.
