300 wm
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burnt_servo
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- right in the middle of b.c.
reminds me of a story my brother in law told me years ago that happened near bella coola .
a native guide was guiding several americans on a moose hunt .
brother in law and his hunting group came across the native guide and his group lining up on 2 moose on the other side of a swamp roughly 300 metres away .
one guy was using a 300 mag , fired several shots , the 2 moose just looked around , he went back to his horse grabbed his buddies 375 h&h , fired off a couple shots .... nothing happened , his buddie went over grabbed his rifle , fired off 5 or 6 rounds ... again nothing .
finally while these guys where looking for more ammo the guide pulls out his rifle , takes careful aim , and drops both moose , one shot each .
after the excitment had died down , my brother inlaw askes the guide what he was shooting .... the reply was " get em one shot 30-30 " .
the point being , find something you can shoot well and keep it .
a native guide was guiding several americans on a moose hunt .
brother in law and his hunting group came across the native guide and his group lining up on 2 moose on the other side of a swamp roughly 300 metres away .
one guy was using a 300 mag , fired several shots , the 2 moose just looked around , he went back to his horse grabbed his buddies 375 h&h , fired off a couple shots .... nothing happened , his buddie went over grabbed his rifle , fired off 5 or 6 rounds ... again nothing .
finally while these guys where looking for more ammo the guide pulls out his rifle , takes careful aim , and drops both moose , one shot each .
after the excitment had died down , my brother inlaw askes the guide what he was shooting .... the reply was " get em one shot 30-30 " .
the point being , find something you can shoot well and keep it .
why does everybody make fun of .300 magnums?
Why do guys make fun of .300 magnum owners/shooters?
The psychological term for it is "##### envy". That's when you notice the guy in the next urinal has a bigger #### than you. The best way to cure ##### envy is to stop looking at other guy's dicks.
People buy and shoot magnums because they feel like it, not because they need to. If you don't like my big gun, just stop looking at it.
Why do guys make fun of .300 magnum owners/shooters?
The psychological term for it is "##### envy". That's when you notice the guy in the next urinal has a bigger #### than you. The best way to cure ##### envy is to stop looking at other guy's dicks.
People buy and shoot magnums because they feel like it, not because they need to. If you don't like my big gun, just stop looking at it.
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Why do guys make fun of .300 magnum owners/shooters?
The psychological term for it is "##### envy". That's when you notice the guy in the next urinal has a bigger #### than you. The best way to cure ##### envy is to stop looking at other guy's dicks.
People buy and shoot magnums because they feel like it, not because they need to. If you don't like my big gun, just stop looking at it.
Bingo, no need just want. By the way if you think a 300 is a howitzer you need to get out more.
- Location
- Somewhere on the Hudson Bay Coast
The folks I know who own and shoot various .300 magnums like them. I don't own one because I am of the opinion that tolerating the additional cost, recoil and blast just to get the same ballistic potential that is available from a .30/06 doesn't make sense to me. If I want more, I go bigger not faster. If both a .30/06 and a .300 magnum are sighted in for 250 yards with the same bullet, I can't make use of the flatter trajectory over normal hunting ranges. If the critter being shot at is well hit with a good bullet going 200 fps faster, he won't care, unless he is so far away that only one bullet remains supersonic, and most of us have no business shooting at big game that far away, and certainly not with a sporter.
I shoot .300win mag, I only picked it up because I was just getting into centerfires and handloading at the same time, my dad also shoots mainly the same so I figured its easier if we just learn one caliber at a time. I yhave no interest going up or down but all my friends that are just getting into shooting, I tell them stick with a .308 or 30-06, theres just not really any reason to deal with the added price of ammo and recoil for what 99% of the shooting we do.
Personally, I can't stand the 30-06. Not a knock against anyone that has one at all. This is only my opinion. I have shot several 30-06's, in most brands, and to me the recoil is the same as a .300WM when loaded with the same weight bullet. The other thing I notice is some 30-06 guys really brag them up, citing less recoil for almost the same performance, all the time trying to load the crap out of the case to get it as close as possible to .300WM perfomance. I can load a .300WM down to 30-06 performance, haven't met anyone yet that can do it the other way around. Why do less, with less, when you can do the same, better, with a choice between more, or less.
I have killed moose, "responsibly" with a .303 Brit, at distances farther than I dare post. One shot, dead moose. They don't wear kevlar, and when you hit them right, they go down. Just sayin'
R.
Given where this email started it has gone along way. I think (like many others here) that the 300 WM is a fine cartrdge and has its place.
Suprised so many would fall into the trap of the initial email!!!!
Given the location of the originator he probabaly has a safe full of .303 Lee Enfields with open sites, a 30-30 and maybe a single shot 12 gauge for rabbit hunting.
I lived there for a time, half of my family is from there and the Commander in Chief is also from there - so I can make that statement and not be politically incorrect.
Cheers
Suprised so many would fall into the trap of the initial email!!!!
Given the location of the originator he probabaly has a safe full of .303 Lee Enfields with open sites, a 30-30 and maybe a single shot 12 gauge for rabbit hunting.
I lived there for a time, half of my family is from there and the Commander in Chief is also from there - so I can make that statement and not be politically incorrect.
Cheers
When the 30-06 was busy establishing its early reputation, it wasn't as a mild cartridge. Think about it, what was it up against in the .30 caliber slot? Without harping on the years too much, there was the 30-30, 30-40 Krag it replaced, the slightly fatter .303 british and savage, and the odd guy may have heard of the 300 H&H.
For its time it was the big bad boy of the common made in America .30s. It had, among other things, higher velocities with equal weights of bullets and equal velocities with heavier bullets. A virtual magnum light. Fortunately those advantages stopped precisely in 1906, and further improvements in those areas have been impossible ever since. To think otherwise is heresy.
For its time it was the big bad boy of the common made in America .30s. It had, among other things, higher velocities with equal weights of bullets and equal velocities with heavier bullets. A virtual magnum light.
Fortunately those advantages stopped precisely in 1906, and further improvements in those areas have been impossible ever since. To think otherwise is heresy.troutseeker
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- Prince George, BC
Nah, they are selling their .300WM's to get some bigger guns!
bigborefan
Regular
- Location
- Kawartha Lakes, ON
My .300 Win Mag is my varmint rifle (wolf, coyote, etc), for big game I use my big guns... jus' makes sense!
Seriously though, the .300 Win is one of my all-time favorites. I'm on my eighth, so I guess I like 'em a lot.
Actually though, my REAL guns are the Big Bores. Ya really need a .458 Win Mag to kill stuff like moose
Hmmm... when it comes right down to it though, it's hard to beat a .45-70 for everything from bear to buff.
Bob
www.bigbores.ca
Seriously though, the .300 Win is one of my all-time favorites. I'm on my eighth, so I guess I like 'em a lot.
Actually though, my REAL guns are the Big Bores. Ya really need a .458 Win Mag to kill stuff like moose
Hmmm... when it comes right down to it though, it's hard to beat a .45-70 for everything from bear to buff.
Bob
www.bigbores.ca
- Location
- Somewhere on the Hudson Bay Coast
Indeed...Maybe shoot more?
I have to agree with Boomer about the 30-06, but the old -06 is as boring as it gets...Give me a pointy 200 grainer at 2950fps and I'm happy.
Make no mistake this is a rifleman's cartridge....Worse than useless for the box a year hunter.
Boring is good. The '06 hits everything its pointed it at, kills everything it hits, and does so with tedious repetitiveness. I know you don't believe there is anything you can do with a 200 at 2950 that you couldn't do with a 200 at 2700.
