Well the way business usually works is you try to make a profit. The bigger your expenses the bigger the profit has to be for BEP. Most companies that are starting out usually offer better pricing until they get huge and start raising prices. Besides manufacturing advertising is the single biggest cost of any business I think..
Bushnell vs Vortex
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RememberTheSomme
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I have owned lots of Bushnells and got what I payed for in the models price range. I've never owned a Vortex scope but have their binoculars and the optics are fantastic for the price.
When i was scoping an '06 last summer, I was told that while Vortex has superior optics to Bushnell for the same price range, the Vortex scopes were being brought back for warranty repairs due to the turrets plastics" lack of hardness" causing zero loss in heavy recoiling rifles.
Maybe someone can comment on this. In the mean time I choose another brand over the Vortex just for this reason.
What caliber is the OP's rifle chambered in as well?
When i was scoping an '06 last summer, I was told that while Vortex has superior optics to Bushnell for the same price range, the Vortex scopes were being brought back for warranty repairs due to the turrets plastics" lack of hardness" causing zero loss in heavy recoiling rifles.
Maybe someone can comment on this. In the mean time I choose another brand over the Vortex just for this reason.
What caliber is the OP's rifle chambered in as well?
I have a T3 Tactical in 308 and the new rifle is a Savage 10 BA. Didn't see any plastic parts on my Viper...
I have owned lots of Bushnells and got what I payed for in the models price range. I've never owned a Vortex scope but have their binoculars and the optics are fantastic for the price.
When i was scoping an '06 last summer, I was told that while Vortex has superior optics to Bushnell for the same price range, the Vortex scopes were being brought back for warranty repairs due to the turrets plastics" lack of hardness" causing zero loss in heavy recoiling rifles.
Maybe someone can comment on this. In the mean time I choose another brand over the Vortex just for this reason.
What caliber is the OP's rifle chambered in as well?
So as a bit of an update I checked a reliable source and the Vortex Razor is made in Japan and my guess the LOW product. Crossfire is made in China, and Diamondback and Viper in the Philippines. That is probably what accounts for the price/quality difference between the Viper and the made in Japan by Low Bushnell Elites.
I have the bushnell 3200 7-21X40 on my .223 rem. I shoot it up to 500 yards no problem. Make sure you get the mil-dot recticle. my only beef with the 3200 is that I wish it had full target turrets.
Interesting comment.
Jordan Smith
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That's my point. A la Bushnell, Leupold, etc...
Jordan Smith
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
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- Calgary, AB
Other than increased elevation and windage capacity...
This will be my 4th Vortex product and I've had 0 issues with the other 3. By the way if anybody wants a better price than retail on any Vortex scopes PM me
Vortex sound good in this thread but what about longevity. How much shooting and use have these scopes seen. How many years, rounds etc. That stuff is important to me.
I have 3 4200s and they all do what I need. I will likely try a Sightron next because I have been impressed by the glass but will keep my eye on Vortex in the future.
So far I have nothing but good to say about Bushnell Elites but then again I like Remington and Savage, drink Guinness and love black haired women.
Compare Vortex to Leupold , then you have a debate.
Vortex to Bushnell isnt worth talking about sorry.
Last two times I sent a scope back to Bushnell for repair it took over 6 months to get them back and one had to go back again as they didnt fix it. So never again .
Have not had to send a Vortex back and hope I dont but hear turn arounds are limited to shipping times. This alone is worth alot to me.
Vortex to Bushnell isnt worth talking about sorry.
Last two times I sent a scope back to Bushnell for repair it took over 6 months to get them back and one had to go back again as they didnt fix it. So never again .
Have not had to send a Vortex back and hope I dont but hear turn arounds are limited to shipping times. This alone is worth alot to me.
I know Bushnell has been around for a long time and generally I think their reputation is fairly solid. The turn around time on warranty service seems to be lacking though and this is a sore point with a lot of people. Vortex as a company has been around for about 10 years, and it is owned by a husband and wife who for 20 years prior ran an optics retail store. Their business philosphy has been to provide the best products they can, at a price where everyone in the chain can make a reasonable amount of money and still allow for a decent price for the consumer.
Just a question here, not an arguement. How long has Sightron been around? I have never used their glass, but I am hearing good things about them. They seem like a relative new comer to me, but I may be wrong!
Where do you get your information?
And where do you get your information?
The first one is figure of speech, the other one is every other Vortex Vs Bushnell thread that comes up on these forums, but mostly it was about this very thread.
For other information I've talked directly to and been parts of Vortex official posts on other threads and read other offical posts from Vortex on threads where Im not a member.
And then finally I have information from my own personal experiences with Vortex on rifles ranging from .22LR to .223 to 7mm Rem Mag to .308 Norma Mag. Bushnell has been on most of those rifles as well.
One of the best threads showing Vortex was on AR15.com when they first released the Strikefire. Vortex created an Official thread there about the Strikefires and it went through the development to the preorders to the first release with problems, to the fixes, to the waiting, and finally the rerelease.
I have owned lots of Bushnells and got what I payed for in the models price range. I've never owned a Vortex scope but have their binoculars and the optics are fantastic for the price.
When i was scoping an '06 last summer, I was told that while Vortex has superior optics to Bushnell for the same price range, the Vortex scopes were being brought back for warranty repairs due to the turrets plastics" lack of hardness" causing zero loss in heavy recoiling rifles.
Maybe someone can comment on this. In the mean time I choose another brand over the Vortex just for this reason.
What caliber is the OP's rifle chambered in as well?
There is no plastic in Vortex's turrets adjustment system. In fact I would be surprised if anyone used plastic there. What you heard was partially true though, almost. Let me clarify, last year Vortex catalogued a scope called the Viper PST, it was meant as a mid priced long range precision shooting/tactical scope. Unfortunately, the entire production run was scrapped because the metal used in the adjustment turrets was not hard enough, and after a few rotations of the turrets, there were no more clicks. So Vortex scrapped the whole thing and took it back to the design process. Their philosphy was it is better to lose a customer due to non delivery than to lose that customer due to shoddy product. They have rectified the problem, and they are now starting to deliver these scopes to dealers.
And another note, Vortex runs quality control checks on 100% of all Razor and Viper scopes, with frequent spot checks on the Diamondback and Crossfire line.
You may be interested in this thread on the LOW scopes. Further the latest info suggests Vortex Viper and Diamondback were originally made by LOW in Japan, but are now being made in the Philippines.
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Stay away from BUSHNELL. I had a brand new 4200 with moisture on the inside that would freeze while hunting making it useless. sent it in and it took over three months for them to look at it before realizing it was pooched and sending a new one. that was with me calling weekly to "expedite" the inspection... i have a set of vortex binos and lost the caps in the bush. one call and they sent out new covers free of charge. Great service with Vortex.
lol, I've never seen as much "probably", "maybe", "could be", "might be", and "i've read somewhere" in that thread. Once again you fail to see the point of this thread. WHEN YOU LOOK THROUGH THE SCOPE, IS VORTEX VIPER BETTER THAN BUSHNELL 32-4200 SERIES? Not who made them and where and with who's parts.
