Winchester Model 12 price check
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greyman441
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The model 12's are absolutely fantastic guns. Made all steel, taking apart is super easy. I see yours is nickel steel. I have seen a few of these but not many. Yours has some rust, so I would say 225-275 because of the nickel steel. What is the first 3 numbers of the serial number. I can tell you the date of manufacture. Just put ### for the remaining amount of numbers.
greyman441
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It says it is 1919. These are very good guns. I have one also and I will never sell it. Great gun.
Heres the link
http://www.mchenry-sc.org/Engineering/Model_12.htm
Heres the link
http://www.mchenry-sc.org/Engineering/Model_12.htm
greyman441
CGN Regular
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- Wasaga Beach, ON
Some of these guns are worn out but here is some ways to check. guntech on here sent me this awhile back.
With an empty gun pump it back, with the safety not engaged, hold the trigger back and very slowly ease the pump forward until it is fully forward. At some point in doing this the trigger will release the hammer... it should not release the hammer until the rear of the breech bolt is up in the locking recess of the receiver. Many well worn Model 12's will release the hammer when the breech bolt is not locked up... it is an indication of how worn or out of specification it is.
The other thing to look for is to close the action (cocked) on an empty chamber and turn the action so you can see the rear of the breech bolt... then pull the trigger... the rear of the breech bolt should not 'jump' up into the action very far... it should already be held up there... if it jumps a lot on firing that indicates wear. You can feel for this wear behind the breech bolt locking recess in the action... a worn one has 'peened' back a little lip you can feel with your finger.
Another thing to do is test the action release latch... with the gun unloaded and cocked closed... use the release latch to let the action open slightly and while holding the release latch in that position, pull and release the trigger... then let go of the action release... the hammer should not fall. If it does it requires repair.
These are just a few things to check.
With an empty gun pump it back, with the safety not engaged, hold the trigger back and very slowly ease the pump forward until it is fully forward. At some point in doing this the trigger will release the hammer... it should not release the hammer until the rear of the breech bolt is up in the locking recess of the receiver. Many well worn Model 12's will release the hammer when the breech bolt is not locked up... it is an indication of how worn or out of specification it is.
The other thing to look for is to close the action (cocked) on an empty chamber and turn the action so you can see the rear of the breech bolt... then pull the trigger... the rear of the breech bolt should not 'jump' up into the action very far... it should already be held up there... if it jumps a lot on firing that indicates wear. You can feel for this wear behind the breech bolt locking recess in the action... a worn one has 'peened' back a little lip you can feel with your finger.
Another thing to do is test the action release latch... with the gun unloaded and cocked closed... use the release latch to let the action open slightly and while holding the release latch in that position, pull and release the trigger... then let go of the action release... the hammer should not fall. If it does it requires repair.
These are just a few things to check.
With an empty gun pump it back, with the safety not engaged, hold the trigger back and very slowly ease the pump forward until it is fully forward. At some point in doing this the trigger will release the hammer... it should not release the hammer until the rear of the breech bolt is up in the locking recess of the receiver. Many well worn Model 12's will release the hammer when the breech bolt is not locked up... it is an indication of how worn or out of specification it is.
It does not fire until fully forward.
The other thing to look for is to close the action (cocked) on an empty chamber and turn the action so you can see the rear of the breech bolt... then pull the trigger... the rear of the breech bolt should not 'jump' up into the action very far... it should already be held up there... if it jumps a lot on firing that indicates wear. You can feel for this wear behind the breech bolt locking recess in the action... a worn one has 'peened' back a little lip you can feel with your finger.
It jumps a little bit on firing, there is a little lip
Another thing to do is test the action release latch... with the gun unloaded and cocked closed... use the release latch to let the action open slightly and while holding the release latch in that position, pull and release the trigger... then let go of the action release... the hammer should not fall. If it does it requires repair.
Hammer does not fall
It does not fire until fully forward.
The other thing to look for is to close the action (cocked) on an empty chamber and turn the action so you can see the rear of the breech bolt... then pull the trigger... the rear of the breech bolt should not 'jump' up into the action very far... it should already be held up there... if it jumps a lot on firing that indicates wear. You can feel for this wear behind the breech bolt locking recess in the action... a worn one has 'peened' back a little lip you can feel with your finger.
It jumps a little bit on firing, there is a little lip
Another thing to do is test the action release latch... with the gun unloaded and cocked closed... use the release latch to let the action open slightly and while holding the release latch in that position, pull and release the trigger... then let go of the action release... the hammer should not fall. If it does it requires repair.
Hammer does not fall
greyman441
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- Wasaga Beach, ON
It sound like a pretty tight model 12. Your lucky some I have seen are useless. I would say, 250-275 would be a good price for that gun. It doesn't look like there is any bluing left, you could clean up that rust with some 0000 steel wool and some oil. That is if you plan on keeping it. Some people collect the model 12's but there is a lot of them out there. I bead blasted mine and completely re-blued mine. Here is a picture of it. That screw that is missing is hard to find. If you find one your lucky, if you find more than one buy them all.
Here is a pic of mine. Mine in 1947
Here is a pic of mine. Mine in 1947
agree!
greyman441
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- Wasaga Beach, ON
I have saw some on the EE "nickel steel" going for 250-275 in the same shape. Maybe im wrong. If I saw that for $100-$125 I would buy that it a heartbeat. I also redo guns so maybe I see it different. I am actually looking for another M12 cheap to do some customizing on.
Turkeyslayer 1300
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I agree too.
All the agreeing that has been going on is starting to scare me.
You would buy it in a heartbeat because at that price it is a good deal. It is not a good deal at $250-275. Sure you will see them on the EE for that price. The op asked what they are worth, not what he could get for it on the EE when the moon is in a certain quarter and all the stars are aligned etc.
greyman441
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- Wasaga Beach, ON
I understand, I was wrong on the 250-275 price. That is why it is nice to have more than one persons perspective.
The model 12 really is a great old gun, but that said, there were enough of them made that their original owners havn't used because of the ban on lead shot. Through estate sales and old timers just dumping their guns m-12 is really good condition can be had for a reasonable price.
Unless you happen upon one that is a skeet pigeon grade..... I could never understand what the big deal is and or was about the model 12, just a plain jane full choke pump shotgun, nothing very special to my mind. FS
Pretty much a grey gun. Like has been said, won't fetch $250. The 12 is a great design and really well built. They used to bring top dollar when you could use them for waterfowl but since the advent of steel shot the value for a somewhat worn gun has plumetted. You see them on the EE often in really good shape for $250-$300 and they don't move very fast. A really minty one or a skeet or heavy duck gun still bring high prices but not hunting guns. A shame really because I think they were the beat pump gun ever made.
