Time for a Battle Rifle
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RememberTheSomme
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- Nova Scotia
Sounds like those I1As from Isaphore for $150.00?
I got an excellent L1A1 with original furniture, short and standard butt, and complete set of Black furniture(adjustable LOP plates), top of line Tactical Case with 5 magazines for $400.00, and sold it for the same and now can't even own the GD anymore. Oh where was my head when these laws were being cooked up in the 90s!
Though I've ordered rifles from several of the dealers on this forum and have only good things to say about them, I do think that it's desirable to be able to handle an M305 in person before purchasing, as the QC on these rifles do vary somewhat from batch to batch.
If you search the threads about the characteristics of these rifles, you will see several issues that come up regularly. For one, it was very common in the past for the rear sights to be poorly made (no audible click during adjustments, off centre apertures, sights not maintaining zero, etc.), a feature that seems to have improved over time but it can still be hit or miss. Another common predicament is that the barrels are often poorly indexed to the receiver (front sights might be canted left or right), which means that the rear sights may have to be adjusted quite a ways off centre for the rifle to group to POA at a set distance. I have also observed that the fit and finish can vary even between more recent shipments of the rifle (for instance, in one batch the parkerization was consistent on all the parts, whereas another had grey painted flash suppressor and the main parts coloured differently).
To be fair, these differences aren't necessarily as bad as they sound (many people simply replace the rear sights with USGI parts, the indexing can be fixed (I've seen it at one of Hungry's clinics) and it doesn't matter much if at all should you scope the rifle. I'm not sure if the painted flash suppressors on some rifles indicates a less carefully assembled batch with other QC issues, or simply cosmetic differences of no greater significance. For those of us who like to shoot the rifle "as is" out of the box, or don't have the time or money to do all of the upgrades in the short term, being able to pick out a rifle with good sights and barrel indexing would definitely be a plus.
For Your Consideration,
Frank
- Location
- Shushwap Valley, British Columbia
^^^Thanks. I had read a bit about some of these issues mentioned.
Im going to try and pick up somthing that has been accuratized, and tinkered on already. I have also read that XCR is going to make a 308 version. Now that would be cool, and worth the saving. Although there aint much that sounds as cool as the m14 action cycling. Thanks for the responses guys. For the time being its good ol Cz and surplus awsomness.
Im going to try and pick up somthing that has been accuratized, and tinkered on already. I have also read that XCR is going to make a 308 version. Now that would be cool, and worth the saving. Although there aint much that sounds as cool as the m14 action cycling. Thanks for the responses guys. For the time being its good ol Cz and surplus awsomness.
RememberTheSomme
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- Nova Scotia
Hope the QC is have good as I just ordered an M14S today.
I just bought a Polyteck M-305 "M-14" yesterday, $450 from ISS in Surrey. I hadn't even intended to buy it, but...
...sights were decent, whole thing was rock solid, parkerised finish, chrome lined bore (chamber too maybe???), tight like new, but smooth action (smoother than other M-14's I've handled in the past). It came with a black polymer stock...I'm lukewarm about it's looks, and it probably won't be stable enough for Camp Perry scores, but it should be perfect for regular range use and hunting. Best of all, the trigger was actually quite good out of the box, by the time break-in is done, it should be quite sweet.
I know the common thing is to go optics on this type, but right now I'm thinking National Match iron sights! That and handloading for good accuracy at modest prices.
...sights were decent, whole thing was rock solid, parkerised finish, chrome lined bore (chamber too maybe???), tight like new, but smooth action (smoother than other M-14's I've handled in the past). It came with a black polymer stock...I'm lukewarm about it's looks, and it probably won't be stable enough for Camp Perry scores, but it should be perfect for regular range use and hunting. Best of all, the trigger was actually quite good out of the box, by the time break-in is done, it should be quite sweet.
I know the common thing is to go optics on this type, but right now I'm thinking National Match iron sights! That and handloading for good accuracy at modest prices.
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Shoot factory issued (1 MOA per klik) sights until your positions get better and better. I'm trying to save you some $$
NM sights are great if you are competing NRA High Power. For CDN Service Rifle (BCRA in Chilliwackistan area), you will be shooting Matches 1-16 or 1-12, you can get by with your single MOA sights. The last time I competed in Service rifle matches 1-12 was with the ORA in 2005. I used a Douglas NM Hvy barreled Norinco 2002 series and just a set of M1 Garand sights. Worked well.
Shot about 470 pts out of 600 pts and that was with iron sights. Then I switched back to my AR15 with Leupold VariXIII 3.5 x 10 target and kept my scores around the 500 pt mark.
The Kommunist Xhinese (reverse) engineers got that polymer stock right (for the most part) and that's a good thing. I actually like it.
How about a range report ?
Cheers,
Barney
Go for it, I doupt that you will not like it. I bought my first M305 about 2 years ago from P&D. Bone stock, took it out and it shot rather well out of the box but I wanted to improve it as I wanted to hunt with it.
Well not being around any of these M14 clinics, followed the stickies on here that have to do with these weapons, er I mean firearms, and found they are of great help for doing your own tweaking.
It is my favorite gun to shoot still. And two are always better than one.
