Good idea big Game ....we have tagged a few at the road after we stuggled through some pretty thick brush and we never thought of doing that before we dragged them out..... Shows good intent to the CO if stopped while dragging it out.
Three People in Norfolk, Ontario Fined. Deer Hunters.
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Good idea big Game ....we have tagged a few at the road after we stuggled through some pretty thick brush and we never thought of doing that before we dragged them out..... Shows good intent to the CO if stopped while dragging it out.
Why can't our tags be thick plastic cable ties with all of the information on them. That way, we wouldn't get fined thousands of dollars for not wanting to damage our fragile, sticky paper game seals. The MNR is a grossly underfunded ministry and fining is a big source of revenue. Heaven forbid we close a regulational grey area and keep some honest folks from getting fined up the a**.
Patrick
Patrick
10's of thousands of us will manage to find a way to drag our deer out without losing a tag. There's always a few that can't solve the simplest of problems for themselves and then blame the goobermint. 
And if someone lost a tag on the way out I am sure the nice CO would be more than happy to backtrack with you and help you find it.
And if someone lost a tag on the way out I am sure the nice CO would be more than happy to backtrack with you and help you find it.
People used to do that for salmon out east. Then people decided to not close the cable tie and just re-use them. If they get pulled over, their buddy in the back would zip it up.
Your new idea is old.
Absolutely spot-on!
I've contacted the MNR in writing and suggested this on a number of occasions. Mylar cards, similar to library cards are virtually indestructible, pair that up with a single-use ziptie and you're good to go.
The problem gets compounded when you need to drag out a moose, the weight and the terrain make it especially dangerous for the flimsy tag and wire combo. The past few years a carry around a clean rag and a roll of duct-tape in the truck. After attaching the tag, I basically "bandage" it to the leg with the rag and duct-tape the whole thing down.
10's of thousands of us will manage to find a way to drag our deer out without losing a tag. There's always a few that can't solve the simplest of problems for themselves and then blame the goobermint.
And if someone lost a tag on the way out I am sure the nice CO would be more than happy to backtrack with you and help you find it.
This isn't about losing the tag, it's about not wanting to put the tag on, before the gutting/moving and all the general f*cking around you have to do before you get the animal home/back to camp.
Give me a tag that I won't worry about damaging/destroying, and I will put it on immediately after the kill. Fining everyone they catch is purely a means of generating a revenue stream for a "junior" ministry.
Patrick
I wasn't going for a patent, nor was I claiming to have re-invented the wheel. As long as we are given tags/licenses, people will figure out ways to manipulate their use. For the vast majority of honest sportsmen, why not provide a more durable tag that takes into account the environment/circumstances in which it will be used.
Patrick
Yes, there are better methods of providing a tag, however I would bet that if the tags were cut and readily presentable, and the hunters weren't being dickheads, the CO would have allowed them to tag and be on their way. Now, there are some CO's (I know one personally), that would stick it to you if your tags weren't cut just right, or if his left ball was itchy that morning. In general though, CO's aren't idiots and will work with hunters to do the right thing.
Never found it the least bothersome to notch em and tag them. If anybody else is around it is the first oppurtunity to brag about the shot or whine about the others that ran away. Chance to relax a bit before getting down to work.
Here's your chance to spoil the goobermint's master plan - put a tag on it immediately at the site of the kill - and now you have whooped some goobermint butt!
Something I like about poachers getting nailed, like the thieves they are.
This was my thought as well.....fine seems pretty steep for what it was. I imagine there was some other mitigating circumstances!
Never found it the least bothersome to notch em and tag them. If anybody else is around it is the first oppurtunity to brag about the shot or whine about the others that ran away. Chance to relax a bit before getting down to work.
Here's your chance to spoil the goobermint's master plan - put a tag on it immediately at the site of the kill - and now you have whooped some goobermint butt!
Something I like about poachers getting nailed, like the thieves they are.
And for the second time, you are missing my point. I am not saying that using the tag is difficult, I am saying that they are stickers on a piece of paper. For something so important, something that can get us into such serious trouble, you would think they would make tags that could stand up to some of the abuse that can take place on a kill. Mud, water, snow, blood, sticks, leaves etc. can leave a tag pretty torn up or completely ruined. I'd like to not have to worry about my tag, when I am elbows deep in blood and up to my waist in mud. Will I keep using the tags? of course, I have no choice. But I guarantee you if they were made to withstand the perils of a hunt, the MNR would issue far fewer fines for this infraction and that is all part of the master plan.
Patrick
If you're waste deep in mud, you're not field dressing. It takes minutes to cut your tags and it is to be done BEFORE you move the animal. The tags stand up to blood very well, and it would take some pretty careless placement to loose a body seal. Beyond that, if you have all the tags cut, and only ONE on the animal and you were checked by a CO, you wouldn't be charged if you could justify only attaching one seal at that moment.
The tags don't stand up well to being dragged behind an atv, pulled in and out of a trailer, being rained/snowed on. I really can't understand the opposition to a more durable validation tag unless people are simply in the mood to argue for its own sake. Incredible,
Patrick
I don't understand all the concern about losing the tag. Everyone says there just paper but they do actually have a fiber woven into them that make them very tough and water proof. If applied properly to the animal there should be 0% chance of ripping it off. I have actually tried tearing them off when processing the critter at home and have always had to use a knife to remove it. Even when covered with blood and mud they hold together and are legible and can be wiped down with water to clean them.
Joe_Singer
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- Location
- Princeton, Ont
Steep fines I dont think so. I know alot about one of them who was charged from someone i know and he always brags about how he gets turkey all year long and same goes for the deer.
Its about time they got caught.
Fines are fines and reasons for having them, so if you dont want to follow them then dont hunt.
Congras to the officer on this one!!
Joe_Singer
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- Location
- Princeton, Ont
