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Its this bullet enough, to hunt deer or I need something bigger
never hunt before, and i just bought a cz 858 non restricted. thanks
Its this bullet enough, to hunt deer or I need something biggernever hunt before, and i just bought a cz 858 non restricted. thanks
What they said.
I have taken 3 WT deer with mine and my wife has one. Keeping it under the 150yds and boiler room shots will get it done.
If you should get into reloading, you can load some 150gn bullets for hunting. Now you are good for 200yds, since they will group better and hit harder.
I currently pull out the FMJ on surplus ammo, dump out the powder, charge with the same powder, (I weigh them just to make sure that they are all the same), seat a 150gn Sierra ProHunter or Game king, or a Hornady SP, sight in and go hunting.
Enjoy.
edit: Oh yeah, if you want to use commercial soft points, remove your gas piston and turn the rifle into a bolt action. That way you can save the brass for future use. If you are not going to reload, disregard.
A 7.62x39 has almost identical ballistics as a .30-30 Winchester. I know several guys who hunt with them - no problem.
150 yards = 100 200 metres, also boiler room what the ass![]()
It has similar ballistics to a 125grain 30-30 but not the 170grain 30-30 that most people hunt with. So make sure you compare apples to apples. Most commercial soft points for x39 are 125 grain as well. You can home load with 150gr but your gun will shoot high if you want to alternate with surplus rounds. Also, the 125 grain soft points are boat tails so they fly better than the round nose 30-30.
I've taken a few deer with the PRVI commercial loads. They are hotter than the surplus rounds but give the best groups of any that I've tried. My GF took a B&C whitetail last fall with hers. Dropped it like a bag of sand. As said above, keep it under 150 yards. It runs out of poop real fast.
You are correct, let's compare apples to oranges . Let's take a commercial round for both.
125gn Prvi Partisan, zeroed at 200yds
2400fps MV, ME~ 1600ft-lbs.
300yds V~ 1604, E~714 ft-lbs. path -13.5"
170gn .30-30 Fed High Shk Soft Pt, zeroed at 200yds
MV~ 2200fps, ME~1830 ft-lbs
300yds V~1380fps, E~720 ft-lbs, path= -17.4"
So you can see that although the .30-30 throws a larger bullet, at 300yds, it is traveling over 200fps slower and has virtually the same energy as the x39mm. I would say that it has VERY similar ballistics to a 170gn .30-30.
Let's take it one step further.
I pull the 125gn FMJ tips, weigh the charge, remove 2gns, seat a 150gn bullet. I chronied them at just over 2200 FPS. So,
150gn Sierra ProHunter
MV=2245fps, ME~1691ft-lbs
300yds V~1597fps, E~849ft-lbs
350yds V~1500fps, E~750ft-lbs
Now you can try and spin this anyway you want, but if a .30-30 can take a deer with a 170gn bullet, then so can an SKS with its 125gn. Cleanly, with as much energy, and distance. Change it up to a 150gn bullet and it blows the 170gn out of the water.
This old wives' tale keeps coming up every time the SKS is mentioned as a deer rifle.
This summer I am putting it to bed. I am going to load some 174gn bullets in my Remingotn 799, throw them downrange and report the results.
No matter how you want to say it, the ONLY way the .30-30 can beat the 7.62x39mm is if you load spitzer point bullets in it. And then it will do it with ease.
The only problem with the X39 is the 123g bullets. Very light and low sectional density. At x39 velocitys they will penetrate deep enough for broad side shots on small deer but don't expect any more penetration that that, in other words, don't shoot a moose in the shoulder and expect to reach the far side of the vitals every time.
I know a guy that uses the 123g Winchester power point bullets with good results for deer.



























