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101's were produced into the mid eighties by Olin Kondensha. That deal went south and they were then produced as Classic Doubles Winchester 101's by Conneticut(spelling) Valley Classics, then just called Classic Doubles 101's.

Where did you get a connection of the 101 and Miroku ? I admit I have seen this presented numerous times but it is false in relation to the original 101 design. I took it that you may had meant the newer 101's made by FN switching to production in Japan by Miroku ? I don' think that is so either.

By the way, the original production equipment, blueprints etc for the 101 is rumored to be for sale by Tony Galazan in the USA.
 
twistedbrilliance said:
Clear as mud?
To add to the mystery the records of the Kodensha were always kept seceret because they were making and selling guns under contract with Winchester and selling some of them out the back door all over the world. All the early records of the Kodensha plant were destroyed. The Kodensha plant was in Tochigi,Japan.
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Not muddy at all, simply put, the 101's were originally made by Nikko, as was already mentioned.
Some of use knew that the first year they came out....
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shatthatkilledelvis said:
I don't think you can lump Beretta in there - it is the oldest family owned business in the world...
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Yes. I am not sure where "Twistedbrilliance" is getting his info from but evidently Google is not his friend. Beretta is family owned. Part of the family consists of Benelli, Franchi, Stoeger, Uberti, Sako, Tikka, Burris optics and also Steiner optics. Also 20% of F/N Herstal. If I have missed any please add them to the list.
 
twistedbrilliance said:
Citori and the 101 are both made by Miroku, so are the later O/U's by Charles Daly.
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Citori is made by Miroku. Not so with the 101. It used top be made by Nikko in Japan and then later by FN. I think that the Charles D used to be made by Miroku and now by FN. The rest of what you say seems to follow the sky is falling type books. I would sure like to see some reference documents for your post.
 
Covey Ridge said:
Citori is made by Miroku. Not so with the 101. It used top be made by Nikki in Japan and then later by FN. I think that the Charles D used to be made by Miroku and now by FN. The rest of what you say seems to follow the sky is falling type books. I would sure like to see some reference documents for your post.
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That's Nikko. Nikki is a girl I used to date. :)
 
Win/64 said:
Yes. I am not sure where "Twistedbrilliance" is getting his info from but evidently Google is not his friend. Beretta is family owned. Part of the family consists of Benelli, Franchi, Stoeger, Uberti, Sako, Tikka, Burris optics and also Steiner optics. Also 20% of F/N Herstal. If I have missed any please add them to the list.
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Uberti as well!:D
 
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