No more AR-10's for Canada?

Teapot said:
Why does the State Dept allow the 223 AR's into Canada but not the 308 versions?
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There are a bunch of dealers selling the Remington R-25's in Canada.

We have LMT's 308's (both the LM308MWSE and the LM308MWSF).

We also have the PWS MK2 Series 308's available

We had the POF AR-308's (I think there are one or two left?)

We can custom order you the Rock River Arms AR-308's

We have been selling the Knight's 308's for several years now.

Lot's of 308 AR's for sale in Canada :)

Mark
 
One thing people keep confusing is that an AR15 type 308 is NOT an AR 10. Armalite is an AR10 and the uppers aren't compatable, nor are the magazines. Armalite will ship some parts, but not barrels,or barreled uppers. I am going thru this right now. I have an AR10 rifle with a 24" match barrel and want to get a 16" upper to go with it. I can get an Armalite stripped upper no problem, but not the barrel. (Apparantly it is because all Armalite barrels are stamped 7.62 and they have no plans to change that) I don't know if thats true, Armalite didn't consult me for some reason. BUT a dpms barrel is supposed to fit an Armalite upper PROVIDED you use a dpms bolt carrier too. Supposedly the bolts are a few thou differant and could cause headspace issues. This is the way I am planning to go. You can also get a Krieger AR10 barrel which they say is no problem, because they are un chambered.
 
I think it's cuz the Canadian Government screwed up and call this guy Non-Restricted ;)

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& No This Is Not My Rifle But I Wish It Was!
 
Only if the Govt can demonstrate (or is it the owner, damn you reverse-onus BS) that the specific firearm was ever FA ... Otherwise, we have just received photographic evidence that a non-restricted (read : worth owning) AR rifle exists in Canada ...

enefgee said:
That is most certainly NOT non-restricted, it's a CFA (note the selector/sear locating hole) Prohib. Regardless of what the paper says, it doesn't change the rifle.
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I just did a quick check of the on-line FRT.

There are only two Armalite semi-auto rifle models that are classified as "Non-Restricted" in Canada... one is the AR-180B and the other is the AR-7 (and the AR-7 Custom and AR-7 Explorer variations).

There is no FRT# that comes up as "non-restricted" in a search of Armalite Rifles classified as "non-restricted".

If the owner of that rifle has a registration certificate showing that the gun is non-restricted then it might be an error in issuing the certificate or it could be that the gun is improperly registered (under the wrong FRT#) or some other error... but clearly there is no valid FRT # showing that model gun as being non-restricted, at least not that I can find.

Mark
 
Is it registered as a "commercial version" on the cert? That means it left the factory as semi and was never FA therefore not a converted auto. Sterling Police Carbine is registered this way.
 
It is what it is, there were quite a few Portugese AR-10's floating around in the late '80's, all were military rifles. There were some Sudanese ones too, most of them were in pretty bad shape. There's only one way to know, since there was a rumour of a very small number of Semi Auto sporting AR-10's made (I've never seen one, and I've handled dozens of CFA ones), but there's no way I'm posting that information here.
 
Would it be possible to make an AR10 to the original drawings (pre-AR15) in semi auto and class it as non-restricted?
 
Questar said:
I just did a quick check of the on-line FRT.

There are only two Armalite semi-auto rifle models that are classified as "Non-Restricted" in Canada... one is the AR-180B and the other is the AR-7 (and the AR-7 Custom and AR-7 Explorer variations).

There is no FRT# that comes up as "non-restricted" in a search of Armalite Rifles classified as "non-restricted".

If the owner of that rifle has a registration certificate showing that the gun is non-restricted then it might be an error in issuing the certificate or it could be that the gun is improperly registered (under the wrong FRT#) or some other error... but clearly there is no valid FRT # showing that model gun as being non-restricted, at least not that I can find.

Mark
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Mark,

Does such an error in registration make the weapon in question legal to own? Or would the owner get into a heap of trouble if stopped by law enforcement (say on the way to the range) and the weapon possibly confiscated? Can the weapon be re registered as restricted and then at least range compliant? What's your opinion? Thx.
 
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If the CFC issue you a cert saying it's non-restricted, you MIGHT get the rifle confiscated, but I very much doubt you would see any legal penalty apart from maybe losing the gun if you don't have the right endorsement on your PAL.
 
And that's the sad part, otherwise they would also have to demonstrate that the Colt M-16 precedes the Armalite AR-15 to justify the de-facto restriction of the AR ...

Reverse-onus at work.

sunray said:
"...Only if the Govt can demonstrate..." They don't have to demonstrate anything.
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