Antiques from the states.... can brass/dies be sent too?

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If the seller of an antique based in the states offered to throw in some brass and dies for the gun... could those travel across the border???:confused::confused:

I know that an antique gun can come across no problem, but I don't know about reloading equipment.... especially since most commercial places won't ship (which is either they aren't interested in the hassle or the BATF or State Department has done something).

Anyone know?
 
I buy all my reloading equipment from the states... Lots of the big stores/companies ship to Canada and there are generally no restrictions on most reloading equipment.. (reloading components are a different matter). Brass can be sent if it is marked as something like "extruded brass cases" or something of the like.
 
There's a sticky about this somewhere, maybe in the General Firearms forum.

Components - brass, bullets, primers, & powder - are all controlled for export purposes and require an export permit to legally leave the USA. Handloading tools are not controlled and can be legally exported from the USA without a permit.
 
The brass is definitely a problem. Here is the rub, you won't personly get in doodoo, as it's the seller taking the legal risk, but you take the risk that your gun will become the property of ATF if they decide to seize the entire shipment. Likely won't happen but it is in the realm of distinct possibility depending how much you paid it's a scenario that would keep me awake at nights.
 
tactical870 said:
Can some exporters not ship brass? What about brass for firearms made pre 1898?
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Buffalo Arms used to ship brass to Canada but they were forced to stop a couple years ago. All ammunition and components are controlled for export from the US and there is no distinction made for ammunition for antique firearms.
 
apu said:
The brass is definitely a problem. Here is the rub, you won't personly get in doodoo, as it's the seller taking the legal risk, but you take the risk that your gun will become the property of ATF if they decide to seize the entire shipment. Likely won't happen but it is in the realm of distinct possibility depending how much you paid it's a scenario that would keep me awake at nights.
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Well actually the buyer can get in "doo doo" because he conspired with the seller to commit criminal acts. I'd guess the US won't ask for extradition for a bag of .43 mauser brass, but you might be barred from entering the US ever again and you'll never know if they are going to arrest you at the border if you do try to enter.
 
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jethunter said:
Buffalo Arms used to ship brass to Canada but they were forced to stop a couple years ago. All ammunition and components are controlled for export from the US and there is no distinction made for ammunition for antique firearms.
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Makes sence from US military perspective as there are likely many "Antiques" in the mountains of Afganistan and Pakistan.
 
Pete04 said:
Makes sence from US military perspective as there are likely many "Antiques" in the mountains of Afganistan and Pakistan.
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Yeah, selling 45/90 brass to Canada puts the US in extreme danger. I can see it now, screaming hordes of militants with Kyber pass Winchester Hi-walls over running NATO bases in Afghanistan, probably threatening security around the globe and life as we know it.... :p

Limiting the sale of antique handloading components is the US anti-gun people at work. Wendy Cookieheads friends and associates. Exports are easy prey because it doesn't affect US gun owners. When US gun owners abandon their friends in Canada it exposes their weakness for "divide and conquer" tactics. When we lose, they lose too. They just don't know it yet.
 
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