Do recoil buffers do anything?

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Do recoil buffers actually do anything? I read somewhere (on the internet so must be true ;)) that they improve accuracy because the reduce the metal to metal impact. Or....are they just an extra piece of junk bangin around inside your rifle?

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afaik- chinese boat- and screw up the recoil cycle- if the gun was DESIGNED for them, they'd be in there- in my experience, you'd be better learning HOW to shoot than fooling around trying to reduce recoil- most misfeeds and other malfunctions can be traced back to the recoil buffer if there is one there- if you're THAT sensitive to recoil, get a muzzle brake, reduce your load, or get a comp'd barrel
 
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afaik- chinese boat- and screw up the recoil cycle- if the gun was DESIGNED for them, they'd be in there- in my experience, you'd be better learning HOW to shoot than fooling around trying to reduce recoil- most misfeeds and other malfunctions can be traced back to the recoil buffer if there is one there- if you're THAT sensitive to recoil, get a muzzle brake, reduce your load, or get a comp'd barrel
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I'm not trying to reduce the felt recoil. From what I understand they are supposed to soften the slamming inside the action. makes it easier on the gun etc. Just wondering if they actually improve anything. Sounds like they don't.
 
For a now less stand offish reply,,,,,,,geesh!!!!!!! They do function but you need to be aware the only main difference is they prevent the bolt from having metal impact on the reciever. If has nothing to do with accuracy or anything else.
 
I bought one but before I installed it I think Doc posted they don't let the action fully cycle and are better left off.
Cheap enough that I didn't sweat the $ spent and it's sitting on the shelf.
 
Perforator said:
I bought one but before I installed it I think Doc posted they don't let the action fully cycle and are better left off.
Cheap enough that I didn't sweat the $ spent and it's sitting on the shelf.
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I think Hungry may have said the same at our clinic in Barrie ..Asphalt
 
I WILL NOT install these buffers in my M14 rifles, let alone anyone elses..... they simply do not belong in the action of an m14.
 
The way that I look at them is that if they break or come apart, then you have just introduced a bunch of pieces that don't belong there floating around in your action.
 
I'd rather make one out of truck tire rubber and try it out than pay for one, jsyk.

So it breaks up, or causes the rifle to malfunction, fine! Then I'll remove it, clean up the mess and call it a lesson.

Good to know M14Doc wont put one in rifles HE works on; it sure smells of gimmick, but I can see where it helps alleviate internal beating on either the back of the bolt or the place in the receiver where the bolt is stopped in it's rearward travel...

my two cents is all this is
 
I am told by others I trust and feel are more knowledgeable on the subject than I that... in some rifles they are good, while others they are horrible.

I hear in the M14 it disrupts the proper lengths of travel of all the parts in unison during recoil so instead of equal pressure across all parts the recoil buffer causes all recoil to be taken on just one part: the result is shattered M14 parts.

I am told that in an SKS and a Mini 14/30 due to the way the rifle and the buffer are designed it prevents metal-on-metal bashing.

In the end I guess it depends on the application: do your research.
 
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in my notes i have record of a rifle that came in with one of the hard plastic buffers as shown in the first post of the thread. the owner had bought it in a sage and it was not functioning and rather than take it apart he sent it to me. When i took it apart, I found the recoil spring , while still on the guide rod, was in 3 peices. one piece about an inch long right at the buffer and then two other pieces. As I've NEVER seen this before nor heard of it on CGN, I chalk it up to that buffer causing the spring to kink with the buffer between the coils and the interaaction of spring, guide rod , buffer and oprod tube, caused shearing of the spring. It's my only reasonable conclusion. that and they just simply don't belong there :D
 
That buffer is kinda like a condom during ###; a false sense of security.

:woohoo: Now I can shoot 190 grainers in my M14 ! :runaway:

I still don't get why people insist on shooting the heavier booolits when the 147 gr ball round is great for punching paper and the 165 gr spire point (or any brand of hunting boolit) will take down most large game in North America.

Anyways, people insist on spending lots of money on this platform. I'm trying to help you save your money! :ninja:

Cheers,
Barney
 
Hungry said:
That buffer is kinda like a condom during ###; a false sense of security.

:woohoo: Now I can shoot 190 grainers in my M14 ! :runaway:

I still don't get why people insist on shooting the heavier booolits when the 147 gr ball round is great for punching paper and the 165 gr spire point (or any brand of hunting boolit) will take down most large game in North America.

Anyways, people insist on spending lots of money on this platform. I'm trying to help you save your money! :ninja:

Cheers,
Barney
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then what we NEED is the ABILITY to buy 165's in BULK- like in 1k lots- that's one of the few reasons i have so many 180's- i'd like a commonality between my saddle rifle , my stalking gun, and my target gun- and save the extra 30-100 dollars per k between boxed bullets and bulk- that's right, i've seen as much as 100 bucks diff between the 2 - granted , the bulks were pull-downs, but you get the idea- good enuff for practise
the place that i get my bullets from has the 165 LISTED as a bulk, but NEVER any in stock- the 180's , though, are always available- same deal with ammo
how many times did we see, at the end of last season did we see the thread" i just bought an m14( they didn't know it was a 305) - can i use 180's that i got from le baron or whoever ?
thats b/c the 180 is the bas*ard child of the 308 world and everybody wants the 150s( deer) or 165s( everything else)- right now i'm seriously thinking about modding all my m14s to take 180s via the sadlak piston and/ or new gas cylinder
 
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...hang on a sec...

WHERE does this thing, that the OP submitted a pic of, go on the M14-type rifle?

(plz spare me the 'in the garbage can next to the rifle's rack comments, plz)

...just trying to figure this out.

I thought it fit at the back of the receiver; looking at the mechanism I thought that the bolt flew back far enough to hit the back of the receiver, hence a relief slot for the firing pin machined in said location, and thought it would be a nice treat for my gun to pad that spot up a bit....

...this thing doesn't fit around the oprod just in front of the receiver, does it?
 
Kayser Sose said:
...hang on a sec...

WHERE does this thing, that the OP submitted a pic of, go on the M14-type rifle?

(plz spare me the 'in the garbage can next to the rifle's rack comments, plz)

...just trying to figure this out.

I thought it fit at the back of the receiver; looking at the mechanism I thought that the bolt flew back far enough to hit the back of the receiver, hence a relief slot for the firing pin machined in said location, and thought it would be a nice treat for my gun to pad that spot up a bit....

...this thing doesn't fit around the oprod just in front of the receiver, does it?
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it slides onto the spring guide rod then the spring goes on .
 
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