thoughts on the WSSM?

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I'm looking to buy a new hunting rifle. Are the Super Short Mag's the way to go? How does the recoil compared to a regular Mag. I've seen that they boost on having less bullet drop? Looking at a 270 or 300 cal.
 
There are no factory WSSM cartridges available that use .277" or 308" bullets. There were factory WSSM cartridges that used .223", 243", and .257" bullets, but they never became popular,and they may soon die off altogether.

There are however factory WSM cartridges using .277" and .308" bullets.
 
I'm new to the site, it was a question I had. Sorry about the Aggravation. I read through the thread, some say bad feeding with the WSM others say it works fine? Velocity is still unanswered?
 
Many of the 300mags including the 300win mag,300 WBY,300RUM,30-378etc, produce more velocity than the 300WSM.

In the original Winchester advertising, they compared the 300WSM with the 300winmag, but they used bullets with a higher BC in the 300WSM, to make it appear that the 300WSM would shoot as flat or flatter than the 300winmag. It was nothing more than deceptive advertising.

The 270WSM produces more velocity than the 270win, but less than the 270WBY.
 
Ummmmmmmmmmm, what about your thread for long range between the .308 WIN and .300 WM???

Isn't the plan for elk and deer at 500+ meter shooting??

Not sure what you are after on either thread but maybe if cash isn't an issue , why don't you go for something in the .338 choices in a custom build if you want a versatile long range rig??
 
In the 300's both the wsm and the win mag are pretty much the same, the differences in velocity being academic, or not really enough to mean anything. I think this has been discussed on here at least a zillion times with no clear decision. There is not really a upside or downside in the debate between the two 30 cal's. The 270 wsm is a good caliber, and is a step up in speed/energy from the standard 270.

Buy the rifle that fits you the best and be happy.
 
"...yet another WSM thread..." 69Mustang is asking about the WSSM, not the WSM.
Hi. WSSM's aren't really mangums. That's just a marketing thing. The .25 WSSM, for example, is equivalent to a .25-06, ballistically. The WSM's are closer to their Magnum cousins though.
Like stubblejumper says, there are no .270 or .30 cal WSSM's. .223, .243 and .25 calibres only. If you opt for any of 'em, buy as much brass as you can afford too. Even if you're not reloading now. The marketing types think nothing of discontinuing a cartridge with no regard for their existing customers if sales do not meet their projections. Having brass means you won't end up with a rifle you can't get ammo for.
You may want to go here for info. http://forums.wssmzone.com/default.asp?CAT_ID=2
 
Thread title states "WSSM", which appears now to be a typing error.

The .300 WSM produces ballistics so close to the .300 WM that it's not worth mentioning.

The advantage is a short action, and thus less weight.

It and the .270 WSM are almost certainly going to be around for a long time, with lots of choices in ammo to follow that market.

IMHO, ultimately the .300 WSM will be added to the list of long lived successful calibers that includes the 30.06 Springfield, .308 Win. and .300 WM, and will be talked and written about in the same respect for many years to come.
 
My 300win mag is ok to drop an animal, but to much recoil to keep practicing with. Need a long range rifle that I can get more comfortable shooting? Without being 'scared' to pull the trigger!
 
Thread title states "WSSM", which appears now to be a typing error.
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Not a typing error, as per his statement in the first post.Notice the Super Short Mag.

Are the Super Short Mag's the way to go?
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The .300 WSM produces ballistics so close to the .300 WM that it's not worth mentioning.

The advantage is a short action, and thus less weight.
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If the 100 fps or so isn't worth mentioning, then the couple of ounces of difference in the weight of the action isn't worth mentioning.
 
My 300win mag is ok to drop an animal, but to much recoil to keep practicing with. Need a long range rifle that I can get more comfortable shooting? Without being 'scared' to pull the trigger!
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For someone like you that is recoil shy, the slight difference in recoil between a 300WSM, and a 300winmag isn't going to make much difference.
 
"...too much recoil to keep practicing..." Magnums are like that. You can either sell it and buy a .308/.30-06 or another non-magnum cartridge. All of 'em are more than sufficient for normal hunting shot distances. Or load the .300 mag down. You should practice with your hunting ammo though.
 
stubblejumper said:
A 260rem might be suitable for you, low recoil, and bullets with very high BCs.
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:agree:

Gotta walk before you can run. Today's powders and on game bullet performance negates the need for any of these big boomers within ethical hunting distances. Bullets are now designed to work at varying velocities for various targets and game.

The folks that can shoot accurately due so from practice, which you will not be able to do with large capacity cartridges.It will literally kick the crap out of your body.

The focus these days seems to be on the 6, 6.5 , 6.8 , and 7mm barreled rifles with modest case sizes. All of which are way more capable than the guy behind the trigger.

The game is accuracy!!
 
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