Varmit genades in .223

Just today there was a gent right beside me at the range shooting some of those projectiles in that caliber, I believe a lighter weight though, he was getting 4000fps there abouts on his crony, in a more custom bolt action rifle. Im sorry I dont remember more of the specs of his setup, but he said the work pretty good at vaporizing small pest critters. :eek::eek:
 
bjd said:
Has any one had good accuracy using 50 gr varmit grenades in .223 and if so
what loads
thanks
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I've played around with them quite a bit with 3 different .223s and have had no luck with accuracy (meaning I can't make them shoot under an inch at 100 yards). I find they work great for short range gopher kills (.22 rimfire range), I use V-max's to reach out to longer distances. I'm sure their are a lot of guys with some accurate loads for varmint grenades, I'm just not one of them.
 
I tried some of the 36gr. in a 222, was not impressed with grouping or kills on gophers. Didn`t get consistent kills, some passed through with no expansion. I gave a buddy the last of mine to try in a 223 this spring. My 222 would group 50 gr. Hornadys alot better, perhaps a little more velocity from a 223 will work better. I`m also getting better results in a 204 with Sierra`s than with the varmint grenades, got some different powder to try come spring.
 
I have some .224 Varmint Grenades in 50 gr. I havent even used any yet. The problem is that they are so damn long and I have been using H4895 in my .223 which doesnt leave enough room for such a long bullet.
 
25.7gr benchmark with 50 varmint grenades in 1:9 twist CZ 527 varmint got extremely good groupings. Any slower twist (like the hornet, 1:16?) couldn't get to shoot straight, absolutely terrible. I didn't think they were worth the money, would prefer Opel 52gr or V-max.
 
55gr vmax are better than varmint grenades. The VGs I tried were terrible in my tikka, whereas the vmax give sub 1/2" groups at 100 yards and blow up gophers juuuust fine. :)
 
I have some 50 grainers. I plan is to use them for a U.S. prairie dog hunt in the spring. I haven't been to the range yet though so I can comment on groups. waiting for some slightly warmer weather for that.

The bullet is light but because the bullet is so long you do need a rapid twist rate. The box says at least 1:10 and I've read that 1:9 is good to go (which is what my AR is). I plan to load some up using Varget and chrony them.

The question I have is how fast can I make them fly without adverse affects on a basically frangible bullet. Someone posted 4000 fps above. That sounds blazing fast...
 
We use 55Gr VG from a Colt AR which is 1-9 I believe and we get kill shots past 100 yards. Not sure of the load but he uses Hodgon H322 and CCI Small Rifle Primers.
Check out Youtube, some interesting videos on VGs :)
 
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