Which cartridge 7-08,280 or 30-06

One rifle for deer to grizzly bears isn't a good concept as has been said.

Go with the 7-08 to shave a few whiskers of weight (in a brand of rifle that does make a true short action). And get a .22 hornet for that griz hunt :popCorn:
 
Packed a 7mm-08 Featherweight win Model 70 around Mckenzie for quite a spell, killed a few moose with it, bang flop ! We saw quite a few G-bears over the years but I never once felt "undergunned" because of them ? :wave:

The 7x57 Mauser(ballistic twin) has killed EVERYTHING on the planet worth killing btw;)
 
BCWILL said:
Packed a 7mm-08 Featherweight win Model 70 around Mckenzie for quite a spell, killed a few moose with it, bang flop ! We saw quite a few G-bears over the years but I never once felt "undergunned" because of them ? :wave:

The 7x57 Mauser(ballistic twin) has killed EVERYTHING on the planet worth killing btw;)
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Including a lot of elephants!:)
 
With respect to big game cartridges, as long as you choose one with a bore size of 6.5 or greater you don't need to be concerned with which cartridge it is. All modern high velocity cartridges are extremely versatile when handloaded. So be more concerned about the rifle you choose and less concerned about the cartridge it is chambered for. You might find a rifle you like that isn't chambered for any of the cartridges you've mentioned, that doesn't make it a poor choice. If the rifle is capable of doing everything you require of it, and if you are competent with it, all is good. You should be concerned about the handiness of the rifle, the quality of the action and trigger, the ease by which you can mount the sights that are most appropriate to your needs, the stock material, and the LOP. Choose a bullet that is suitable for the job at hand and the cartridge, whatever it is, will do its part.
 
oh but you can kill a grizzly just a dead with the 7mm-08 its bullet selection is almost as good...

for you guys that are pushing smaller choices why do you need anything more than a 223 load it with 62gr TSX with the correct shot placement it will kill anything in North America oh yeah right there are better choices out there...

:p
 
Camp Cook said:
for you guys that are pushing smaller choices why do you need anything more than a 223 load it with 62gr TSX with the correct shot placement it will kill anything in North America oh yeah right there are better choices out there...

:p
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I agree there are better choices than a .223 with TSX bullets for an "all around" cartridge. SOme of those choices include 270, 7-08, 280, 30-06, 308....All of which essentially do the same job with non dangerous game.
 
This all makes sense, BUT I would choose something you know that you can hit a target with, if you close your eyes when you pull the trigger or can't hold steady i don't care if you are shooting a 700 NE, a miss is a miss, just make sure you can run faster than your buddy!



Boomer said:
With respect to big game cartridges, as long as you choose one with a bore size of 6.5 or greater you don't need to be concerned with which cartridge it is. All modern high velocity cartridges are extremely versatile when handloaded. So be more concerned about the rifle you choose and less concerned about the cartridge it is chambered for. You might find a rifle you like that isn't chambered for any of the cartridges you've mentioned, that doesn't make it a poor choice. If the rifle is capable of doing everything you require of it, and if you are competent with it, all is good. You should be concerned about the handiness of the rifle, the quality of the action and trigger, the ease by which you can mount the sights that are most appropriate to your needs, the stock material, and the LOP. Choose a bullet that is suitable for the job at hand and the cartridge, whatever it is, will do its part.
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30-06 if on a budget

Gatehouse said:
All those cartridges will kill the same animals just as dead, and just as well. FInd the rifle you want and buy it, regardless of chambering.

WHen you want to go hunt grizzlies, buy a .375 Ruger.;)
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Thought that would surface sooner or later:runaway::stirthepot2:
 
Jordan Smith said:
Boooooorrrrinnnggggg.... :D
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I keep hearing that, but how is shooting with a .30/06 more boring than shooting with something that is only nearly as good? If you get bored shooting at a 10" target try a 4" target. If 200 yards is starting to be a drag, try 1000. Long range shooting with a .30/06 is not boring, if you are interested in long range shooting. Hunting with a .30/06 is not boring if you properly challenge yourself, and hunting dangerous game with a .30/06 is down right exhilarating. Why specialize when you can generalize; having a go to rifle is a real pleasure as there is no lag time required while you become familiar with a new rig. A guy who is a fine marksman with a .30-378 is no less a marksman with a .30/06, but the reverse is not necessarily true. When I can shoot up to my .30/06 maybe I will find it boring, but I doubt that day will come. I've been shooting .30/06 rifles for 40 years, and I doubt that switching to something ending in WSM will make me, or you, a better shot.
 
Camp Cook said:
oh but you can kill a grizzly just a dead with the 7mm-08 its bullet selection is almost as good...

for you guys that are pushing smaller choices why do you need anything more than a 223 load it with 62gr TSX with the correct shot placement it will kill anything in North America oh yeah right there are better choices out there...

:p
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I remember killing a big grizz with a back-up, .25ACP pistol, back in '62. My 22 Hornet rifle misfired on the the only cartridge I had with me. It had been passed down in our family for 5 generations, and was kinda green tinted,.................f:P:
 
Okay, since we are playing pokey-chest a little here, how about we load the Barnes 250gn Original in the .30-06. It will slam out at over 2300fps, carrying almost 2500ft-lbs of energy. Since many on here are fond of quoting how a Barnes bullet of one weight is better than a regular bullet of the next higher weight, then we should easily have something in the neighbourhood of besting the .300WinMag with a 240gn Sierra SBT. Since people feel pretty safe hauling around a .300, then the job is done.

Myself, if I could only have the one gun, it would be a .30-06.
 
Boomer said:
I keep hearing that, but how is shooting with a .30/06 more boring than shooting with something that is only nearly as good? If you get bored shooting at a 10" target try a 4" target. If 200 yards is starting to be a drag, try 1000. Long range shooting with a .30/06 is not boring, if you are interested in long range shooting. Hunting with a .30/06 is not boring if you properly challenge yourself, and hunting dangerous game with a .30/06 is down right exhilarating. Why specialize when you can generalize; having a go to rifle is a real pleasure as there is no lag time required while you become familiar with a new rig. A guy who is a fine marksman with a .30-378 is no less a marksman with a .30/06, but the reverse is not necessarily true. When I can shoot up to my .30/06 maybe I will find it boring, but I doubt that day will come. I've been shooting .30/06 rifles for 40 years, and I doubt that switching to something ending in WSM will make me, or you, a better shot.
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Definitely true on all counts, but I'm a rifle nut and a tinkerer by nature. Buying and using only one rifle would drive me crazy with boredom.
 
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