I hope you're just trying to be funny, too. Next time I'll try not to forget to put "lol", at the end. Didn't look up the Nylon part number because, although I don't have much of a life, I do have some. lol
pros and cons of tube or clip feed
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I hope you're just trying to be funny, too. Next time I'll try not to forget to put "lol", at the end. Didn't look up the Nylon part number because, although I don't have much of a life, I do have some. lol
Looking through these posts, I see no one has mentioned safety. In my opinion tube magazing .22 rifles are UNSAFE! You can unload them by poring them out, but it is possible for one to hang up in the throat, and if not inspected carefully, it is still a loaded rifle. I have come across improperly replaced inner tubes that are too short, and when shot untill "empty" still had 2 cartridges in there.
I would like to see manufactures discontinue tube magazine in 22 rifles. I would certainly not have one.
My 2c.
Neil
I would like to see manufactures discontinue tube magazine in 22 rifles. I would certainly not have one.
My 2c.
Neil
you can make ANY gun UNSAFE through the use of IMPROPER PARTS- the tube feed has been around since 1849, and is proven RELAIBLE- besides, what you're NOT MENTIONING is PROVE AND ACTS- to PROPERLY unload ANY tube fed gun, you open take out the inner tube and pour the contents- ok we all GET THAT- then you replace the inner tube and OPEN THE ACTION - you should be able to see the FOLLOWER RESTING WHERE THE FIRST ROUND WOULD GO, in the bottom of the action- if you can't then the gun is unsafe, and NOT EMPTY- on ALL of my tube fed guns the follower is either WOOD or painted RED plastic AND EASILY DISTINGUISHABLE from a round
incidentally, the follower thing WORKS FOR ALL GUNS- magazine fed or tube- if you can't SEE THE FOLLOWER, the gun ISN'T EMPTY
Just like any other gun, they're as safe or unsafe, as the user.
If you're not practicing PROVE and ACTS, maybe you better stay home and watch TV.
and they are inconvenient to load as well. i cleared out an old Rem field master pump 22 in favor of an old Rem 510 score master (bolt action 6 round clip; oops! my bad - magazine) and am much happier with it as a grouse gun. just snap mag in and go, rather than pull the mag tube follower and feed in bullets one at a time while the grouse tilts their heads in wonder at what that fool human is doing
and they are inconvenient to load as well. i cleared out an old Rem field master pump 22 in favor of an old Rem 510 score master (bolt action 6 round clip; oops! my bad - magazine) and am much happier with it as a grouse gun. just snap mag in and go, rather than pull the mag tube follower and feed in bullets one at a time while the grouse tilts their heads in wonder at what that fool human is doing
if you learned NOTHING fron this discussion, at least you should have learned how NOT to fill your tube mag "one at a time"
my tube mags typically hold 14- that's 2 mags plus 2 shots in your rifle- the ONLY rifle that surpasses my remmy 66 is a 10/22 with a hot lips mag
Rule #2: Control your muzzle
Given our contemporary legal restrictions on when and where a firearm may be 'loaded', the tube feed firearm is generally slower to load and unload than is than the detachable box magazine firearm. Generally, it is also slower to reload. The largest issue, in my mind, is the fact that - because many tube feed firearms load from the muzzle end, rather than the butt end - with many models, maintaining proper muzzle control is more challenging.
If you are educated, motivated, and always-diligent, you can manage a tube feeding firearm without ever allowing the muzzle to point at or to be covered by your face, your hands, or your fingers. If you want to take on that added responsibility, the choice is yours. But...
Be aware that, generally speaking, the detachable box magazine firearm is much easier to use without those particular issues. If you intend to introduce others to shooting with the same firearm, that ease-of-use, or lack thereof (with respect to muzzle control, and to loading and unloading), should be a prime consideration.
Given our contemporary legal restrictions on when and where a firearm may be 'loaded', the tube feed firearm is generally slower to load and unload than is than the detachable box magazine firearm. Generally, it is also slower to reload. The largest issue, in my mind, is the fact that - because many tube feed firearms load from the muzzle end, rather than the butt end - with many models, maintaining proper muzzle control is more challenging.
If you are educated, motivated, and always-diligent, you can manage a tube feeding firearm without ever allowing the muzzle to point at or to be covered by your face, your hands, or your fingers. If you want to take on that added responsibility, the choice is yours. But...
Be aware that, generally speaking, the detachable box magazine firearm is much easier to use without those particular issues. If you intend to introduce others to shooting with the same firearm, that ease-of-use, or lack thereof (with respect to muzzle control, and to loading and unloading), should be a prime consideration.
