They will all kill elk very well,I have them all and like them all but for all around elk/moose the 338 is at or near the top.Lots of factory ammo choices,very available.If you handload tons of good bullet choices brass is easy to get and it is cheaper to load than the 375's or 9.3.Pick up a lightweight 338, and chop the barrel to 22", recoil isn't bad and you will still get a 250 out @ 2700. Hard to go wrong with any of those choices though!
.375 H&H Vs .338win VS. 9.3 X62?
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I hear ya man. Everything seems to be about Ruger and Hornady these days. RCM this, Flex Tip that. Although I do admit they make nice products and do amazing work it is all just the lastest fad of the day however. RCM's will die out along with the WSM's.
I dunno Gatehouse, arn't you forgetting about the rare intercontinental Zoose, found in both the southern African continent and North America?
Gatehouse with his "limited knowledge" Would think He has won the argument. But despite the facts the 9.3x62 is a super cartridge. And you don't have to buy a rifle made by ruger.
The point is that you said this:
Since we were discussing hunting north american animals in Canada, your comment was completely pointless. I suspect you know it was pointless, but you wanted to take an opportunity to try to bash the .375 Ruger cartridge. (And fail, I might add)
Unless you think that a .375 Ruger will not kill a moose.
i dunno gatehouse, arn't you forgetting about the rare intercontinental zoose, found in both the southern african continent and north america?
I love the .338 Win. Mag. on paper and in practice. Bullet selection is key, and it is a hand loaders cartridge. If I was limited to one bullet in the cartridge it would be the 250gr Partition, followed closely by the 210 TTSX. The Partition can safely be pushed over 2800fps with RL22 out of a 24" barrel, and the 210 TTSX over 3000fps with RL19 or H4350.
But either of those is a moose or elk round out to 500yds, and if I was a intercontinental man with dreams of buffalo, elephant and the great Ursus of the peninsula's I would undoubtedly choose the .375 H&H. A 300gr bullet at 2500fps will slay everything nicely out to 250yds with little need to understand hold over.
Given my rambling and your admission, I would either keep the .300 and buy a .375 or sell the .300 and buy a .338.
But either of those is a moose or elk round out to 500yds, and if I was a intercontinental man with dreams of buffalo, elephant and the great Ursus of the peninsula's I would undoubtedly choose the .375 H&H. A 300gr bullet at 2500fps will slay everything nicely out to 250yds with little need to understand hold over.
Given my rambling and your admission, I would either keep the .300 and buy a .375 or sell the .300 and buy a .338.
Originally Posted by Win/64 
Give it a rest. The 9.3x62 is a tried and true, African Cartridge the 375 ruger is not.
The truth is that most African hoofed game is no larger than equivalent North American game. There are many species of African antelope, ranging in size from 10 pound dik dik to 1400 pound bull eland. The latter is as big as an Alaskan bull moose. Kudu, perhaps the most sought after of the large African antelope, are about the size of North American elk. Oryx/gemsbok are about the size of European red stag (already discussed above). The majority, however, are no larger than the various species of North American deer and feral hogs. The famous impala, for example, is about the size of our pronghorn antelope.
Give it a rest. The 9.3x62 is a tried and true, African Cartridge the 375 ruger is not.
FYI.
The truth is that most African hoofed game is no larger than equivalent North American game. There are many species of African antelope, ranging in size from 10 pound dik dik to 1400 pound bull eland. The latter is as big as an Alaskan bull moose. Kudu, perhaps the most sought after of the large African antelope, are about the size of North American elk. Oryx/gemsbok are about the size of European red stag (already discussed above). The majority, however, are no larger than the various species of North American deer and feral hogs. The famous impala, for example, is about the size of our pronghorn antelope.
I think that is because they are both innovative companies that are willing to explore new products and offer a good variety for hunters and shooters. Some guys do take offense to anything new though.
The 338 RCM seems to be pretty popular, much more so than I though it was going to be. The .30 RCM is just another 30 caliber in an already saturated market. I can't see that working out very well, but who knows? WSM's are here to stay. They have been here a decade and the .270WSM and 300WSM and even 325WSM are actually pretty common to see in the field or at the range these days.
I think that is because they are both innovative companies that are willing to explore new products and offer a good variety for hunters and shooters. Some guys do take offense to anything new though.
But it is getting insane. It seems everytime I walk into the local hunting store some has come up with a "new" "breakthrough" that just drive the price of ammo through the roof.
Thank you everyone, for all the great input. It sounds like you really can't go wrong with any of the three cartridges. As some of the posts mention, it comes down to rifle platforms, and what your preferences are. I happen to prefer detachable magazines over the standard floorplate rifles. How about suggestions on different rifle brands, in these calibers, that have a detachable magazine? It looks like CZ and Ruger are out, because of this.
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The .375 Ruger might not have much history in Africa, but its ballistics do, all the way back to 1912. But thanks to Ruger, the .375 bore rifle has found its North American niche. The Ruger Alaskan is a compact, dependable, and accurate rifle, chambered for a hard-hitting cartridge, which can reach out as far as your talent will take you.
Now dead is dead, and truth be told, there is little that can't be achieved here or in Africa with a .30/06; but the little that can't be, can be, with a 300 gr bullet at 2600. Now whether that bullet comes from a .375 Ruger, a .375 H&H, or from the slighter slower and lighter 9.3X62; the bear, moose, elk, musk-ox, walrus, or whale will never know.
Now dead is dead, and truth be told, there is little that can't be achieved here or in Africa with a .30/06; but the little that can't be, can be, with a 300 gr bullet at 2600. Now whether that bullet comes from a .375 Ruger, a .375 H&H, or from the slighter slower and lighter 9.3X62; the bear, moose, elk, musk-ox, walrus, or whale will never know.
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While there are exceptions, powerful cartridges are seldom available in rifles with detachable magazines. You might need to consider a custom rifle.
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The Tikka T3 comes in 338 and has a detach mag box. Recoil is stout but manageable in this light rifle.
T3's don't seem to be for everyone but I really like mine in 7 mag.
T3's don't seem to be for everyone but I really like mine in 7 mag.
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Which calibre?
As to the original question, either of the three mentioned would be fine. I've had several of each and currently own a .375 H+H Browning Safari and a brand new Winchester M70 in .338WM, both of which I plan to take to Alberta/BC for Elk, Moose, deer (and bear if one gets in my way). My new .338 has very light recoil due to weight and 26" tube although I prefer 24" barrels.
Clay at Prophet River has a beautiful M70 .338 that came in with mine.
Geoff
As to the original question, either of the three mentioned would be fine. I've had several of each and currently own a .375 H+H Browning Safari and a brand new Winchester M70 in .338WM, both of which I plan to take to Alberta/BC for Elk, Moose, deer (and bear if one gets in my way). My new .338 has very light recoil due to weight and 26" tube although I prefer 24" barrels.
Clay at Prophet River has a beautiful M70 .338 that came in with mine.
Geoff
