.375 H&H Vs .338win VS. 9.3 X62?

Gatehouse said:
Yeah, Macmillan plastic stocks suck. :D

More words of rifle wisdom from the guy that rates the quality of a rifle only by sliding a bolt back and forth a few times.:p
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Isn't it funny how life work's. When i slide a ruger "back and forth" it feels like Concrete meeting Cement.Nothing smooth. But combine that with your love of plastic and Laminates. Why would anyone want a ruger?
 
Win/64 said:
Isn't it funny how life work's. When i slide a ruger "back and forth" it feels like Concrete meeting Cement.Nothing smooth. But combine that with your love of plastic and Laminates. Why would anyone want a ruger?
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Your comprehension skills match your rifle quality testing ability. What part of:

Not a fan of laminates
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Didn't you understand?
:p
 
Win/64 said:
You don't like it when I 'm right. Do you?
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I don't think i've ever seen you be correct about anything, actually.:p

Okay, you did say that the 9.3x62 was used for a long time in Africa. That is correct. I certainly don't agree with you that rifle evaluations should start and finish by moving the bolt a few times.:slap:
 
Gatehouse said:
I don't think i've ever seen you be correct about anything, actually.:p

Okay, you did say that the 9.3x62 was used for a long time in Africa. That is correct. I certainly don't agree with you that rifle evaluations should start and finish by moving the bolt a few times.:slap:
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The 9.3x62 Is a an all around better cartridge than anyone cares to admit.
 
Camp Cook said:
I load up my 21" barreled 375RUM with the two loads that I shoot in it exclusively now and neither is a top pressure load = 260gr Accubonds @ 3020fps and 350gr TSX @ 2450fps.

If the 20" barreled 375 Ruger comes close to my 375RUM's ballistics/performance your pressures must be freaking scary unsafe and my loads are just putting along...

:rolleyes:
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Barnes lists 375 RUger, 350 gr bullets at 2400-2500fps...

Tested with a 24" barrel, so even if we knock off 100fps for a 20" barrel we are looking at 2300-2400fps, which is within 50fps of your RUM load with 21" of barrel.:)
 
Win/64 said:
The 9.3x62 Is a an all around better cartridge than anyone cares to admit.
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This is the first animal I shot with the NEW KING. Lets see a pic of an animal you have shot with your 9.3x62.:)

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Bullet went from one end ot the other of the bear, lengthwise. You can see the bullet lying on the hide on the right hand side of the pic.

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Gatehouse said:
Barnes lists 375 RUger, 350 gr bullets at 2400-2500fps...

Tested with a 24" barrel, so even if we knock off 100fps for a 20" barrel we are looking at 2300-2400fps, which is within 50fps of your RUM load with 21" of barrel.:)
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I have easily pushed the Barnes 350gr TSX to 2520fps in my 21" barreled 375RUM and that was not a top pressure load how does that 375 Ruger compare again?

The emotional braying about the 375 Ruger has gotten to epic good humour levels I have never seen anything like it anywhere...

I'm thinking you should give it a break it is becoming embarrassing...

d:h:
 
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Win/64 said:
Isn't it funny how life work's. When i slide a ruger "back and forth" it feels like Concrete meeting Cement.Nothing smooth. But combine that with your love of plastic and Laminates. Why would anyone want a ruger?
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Just lost all respect for your statements right there. Smoothest action I've ever owned is my Ruger RSM, even smoother than my Oberndorf sporting banner Mauser.
 
Camp Cook said:
I have easily pushed the Barnes 350gr TSX to 2520fps in my 21" barreled 375RUM and that was not a top pressure load how does that 375 Ruger compare again?
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But you don't use that load. You use one that is very close to the Ruger.:)


I'm thinking you should give it a break it is becoming embarrassing...
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You are embarrassed that you basically built an Alaskan and load it to similar performance as the NEW KING?:p
 
Gatehouse said:
But you don't use that load. You use one that is very close to the Ruger.:)




You are embarrassed that you basically built an Alaskan and load it to similar performance as the NEW KING?:p
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Camp actually knows his stuff, does it, not an internet weenie. Both you guys get out and use your gear, and both have your preferences. To Camp's credit, his RUM is working far less hard to make those same velocities, easier on his rifle's throat, and if he ever takes it somewhere really hot and dusty he won't risk sticky cases. All the said, if I was to take a 'different' .375 to Africa in the fall it would be the .375 Ruger not the RUM, I've owned the RUM too and it's just more than I need. But for North America, full house RUM loads shoot very flat. They also recoil very sharply from a 7lb Rem LSS, was a stupid rifle design to be that light.
 
I vill take it mine to Kamchatka and shoot it brown bear in bum. Next best to head shot. Bear be flat like pancake with big hole in bum. I give him .375" in bum. If go Alaska I bring internet weenie rifle Ruger.
 
Difference is I'm not defending or pushing my rifle/cartridge/load combo like it is the new end all beat all like you even though it easily with far lower pressures out does your pet...

and my velocities aren't theoretical all actually documented velocities unlike the figures you are so happy to spew maybe you could get your hands on some 350gr TSX and prove yourself and good thing Ruger makes the Alaskan tough so you can push your loads to unsafe pressures levels to get close to my reduced loads.

and while your spewing against my 375RUM your 375 Ruger loads are only marginally faster at higher pressures than the H&H so what is the point of your braying again?

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Toomanyguns said:
I vill take it mine to Kamchatka and shoot it brown bear in bum. Next best to head shot. Bear be flat like pancake with big hole in bum. I give him .375" in bum. If go Alaska I bring internet weenie rifle Ruger.
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:D oh man that was terrible... :D

My son sot a 8' plus grizzly with my 300RUM loaded with 200gr Swift A-Frames @ 3200fps bullet impacted right rear hind quarter exited left front quarter bear was dead within 80 yards.
 
Funny you say that. A very effective first shot on a large bear is to anchor it by smashing the hips. I may have seen that rug high up on a wall somewhere recently...........................................
 
Win/64 said:
So you would rather have a ruger with a plywood stock. Than say a Classic Bruno in in 9.3x62? With a Walnut Stock.
Your Daft...

ruger rifles in the real world are second class compared to Win. Mod. 70's CZ's/Brnos F/N 98's, Husqvarna. etc.
And what can the 375 ruger do that the 9.3x62 can't? It has been an African Caliber for a long long time.
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i had a 9,3x62 in lovely german rifle. but a short barrel rifle that overtake the performance of the 9,3x62 with a little more perfs from the 375 h&h ... i care and i can tell you that i have a lot of experience with the 9,3x62 more than you certainly have. i have used it for more than 20 years in Europe in three different rifles. i used too the 9,3x74r and not in a ruger number 1 ...

the ruger rifle is a very good rifle just the idea of the scope rings system.
this rifle is working great. this is a perfect tool for my uses.

find a combo with 20" barrel that works great, not heavy and still operating when you need it. no others rifle on the market can deliver that and seems that guides and hunters are not on your side ...

9,3x62 is a really great cartridge but not in same area as the 375s and the 375 ruger is a step over the 375 h&h.


Ruger is making a great combo like it or not seems that is taking great in Alaska and in northern BC and Yukon. dont tell me about brass or ammo i find them here in Whitehorse ....

cz and Brno is not the same at all ... comparing a ZKK 602 and a CZ550 prove by yourself you dont know what you re talking about.

Husqvarna maybe great rifle but the 1600 and 1900 are not real mauser and are push feed ...
 
Win/64 said:
You seem to think your the one that makes the "call" Why is that?
History is a good thing it tells us what works.
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is not the only one ....

and yes but if you take a cartridge that can do better what are you doing ? still using the 300 h&h or the new WSM or the 300 win mag .. when the evolutuion is great you have to adapt or cry .....:HR:
 
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