Adding weight to magazine tube instead of stock?

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Hey everyone,

I was doing some thinking the other day about ways to reduce recoil on my shotgun (P-350). I know that Stoeger sells a mercury recoil reducer to put in the stock, but from what I've seen, it costs a pretty penny. Through some research I found people add lead shot to their stock, which adds weight, reducing recoil. Some think it throws the balance off though.

My idea was a bit different. I do a fair bit of duck hunting, but I still have a problem with following through after a pull the trigger, which doesn't help my success at all :rolleyes: I was thinking that instead of just having a piece of plastic as a magazine plug, I would fill a piece of pipe with either shot or lead, plug both ends and stick in back in (that would be my plug). In my mind, this would still reduce recoil and have the additional advantage of adding weight to the front to keep the barrel moving.

Any thoughts?

Cory
 
CoryTheCowboy said:
Hey everyone,

I was doing some thinking the other day about ways to reduce recoil on my shotgun (P-350). I know that Stoeger sells a mercury recoil reducer to put in the stock, but from what I've seen, it costs a pretty penny. Through some research I found people add lead shot to their stock, which adds weight, reducing recoil. Some think it throws the balance off though.

My idea was a bit different. I do a fair bit of duck hunting, but I still have a problem with following through after a pull the trigger, which doesn't help my success at all :rolleyes: I was thinking that instead of just having a piece of plastic as a magazine plug, I would fill a piece of pipe with either shot or lead, plug both ends and stick in back in (that would be my plug). In my mind, this would still reduce recoil and have the additional advantage of adding weight to the front to keep the barrel moving.

Any thoughts?

Cory
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Hi Cory:
If you are asking about internal and external mag tube weights they have been around since the 50's.I have them installed on both my 410 and 28ga since probally 1966.There are two styles one replaced the mag cap and goes inside the mag tube the other on the outside.
Here are just some examples.

http://performanceshootinghq.com/barrelextensions-2.aspx

This is the one I use on my remington small gauges.I add lead shot to it to modify the weight
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I did that 40 years ago with my Ithaca 37 featherweight "duck gun". Works very well! If you make a plug out of copper or some similar metal you can fill it with molten lead. Make sure the inside diameter fits inside the magazine spring. have one end flanged so the spring will "stop" at the muzzle end. In my case I needed something heavier than could be achieved by a plug the inside diameter of the spring so I just filled an empty shell with lead and cut off some of the magazine spring and popped the lead filled shell on top. That method does have the disadvantage of compressing the spring more than a plug running inside the magazine spring.
I found the extra weight smoothed my swing and soaked up a lot of the recoil of heavy duck loads in the featherweight gun.
Good luck with your project!
 
3macs1 said:
Hi Cory:
If you are asking about internal and external mag tube weights they have been around since the 50's.I have them installed on both my 410 and 28ga since probally 1966.There are two styles one replaced the mag cap and goes inside the mag tube the other on the outside.
Here are just some examples.

http://performanceshootinghq.com/barrelextensions-2.aspx

This is the one I use on my remington small gauges.I add lead shot to it to modify the weight
B8S3QEWkKGrHqZlMEyjCyKklBM4gf6IFQQ_12.jpg
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So the internal mag weights would be the same idea as what I thought right? I might not have read the description right though...

Looks like it's something I can try and worse comes to worse, I unscrew my mag cap and take it out. Thanks guys :)

Cory
 
Looks like it's something I can try and worse comes to worse, I unscrew my mag cap and take it out. Thanks guys :)

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Hi Cory:
In my opinion not worth making one. They were like under 30.00.
Here is a couple of internal examples.Some are solid lead or brass bar with the mag cap on the end some are hollow brass tubes that you add lead shot and buffer to etc.
They come with a shorter spring and modified follower etc.There is a guy in Flordia that sells all styles I am having trouble finding his web page but will.There is also ones that are recoil suppressors
http://www.mercuryrecoil.com/suppressors/index.htm#top


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Well, it didn't go exactly as planned but I added a fair chunk of weight to my shotgun.

I went up to the hardware store with my shotgun plug and bought 2 foot long chunks of copper pipe. One was 1/2" and one was 3/4", the plug seemed to be right in the middle, so to save me a trip I bought both. Went home, unscrewed the cap, took off the barrel and was immediately stumped. The "head" of the plug was between the two pieces of copper pipe, but the hole was a lot smaller. So of course I couldn't just jam either piece in there to test fit. I also found out Stoeger's have a contraption you need a pair of...circlet pliers? to open. Of course, I didn't have a pair handy so I waited till my Dad got home.

While I was waiting I realized that a magazine spring in a Stoeger is the length of the entire magazine tube :O Therefore, even if I could get the piece off, I would run into a spring problem....

So I took the easy way out and filled the 3/4" pipe with lead and weighed it. A hefty 17oz. For those wondering, a 3/4" piece of copper pipe with a end cap and approximately 14 wraps of black hockey tape will fit PERFECTLY into the slot where the official Mercury reducer is supposed to go.

I've been swinging it around and it is a tad bit end heavy, but nothing I can't deal with. I would like to see if I can find a new spring (I'm waiting for an email from Stoeger) so I can shorten the old one and try to stick some copper pipe in the magazine tube to try and even the weight out. If I can't get a new spring cheap, I'll just deal with it. I'm not too concerned about weight..I don't walk much and this is a dedicated waterfowl gun ;)

Cory
 
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