Shoot farms in Alberta
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i never understood the whole farm shooting. where's the sport, or challenge? you drive up in a 4x4, to animals that are used to human presence, and then go on a spree. why not just chain the animals down and save on gas also..?
its supposed to be (IMHO) about getting out in the nature, and if you're lucky, filling a freezer. these types of "farms" give hunters a bad name as it does nothing more than glorify the killing part of the hunt.
i dont think i'll ever be a part of something like this.
its supposed to be (IMHO) about getting out in the nature, and if you're lucky, filling a freezer. these types of "farms" give hunters a bad name as it does nothing more than glorify the killing part of the hunt.
i dont think i'll ever be a part of something like this.
bearkilr
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Are farmed cervids in Alberta currently under Agriculture or Wildlife's jurisdiction ?
While I see your concern, we have a Livestock Industry Diversification Act governing cervids here in Manitoba which falls under Agriculture and it's still illegal to shoot penned animals.
Perhaps it's their way of moving them under the authority of the department of agriculture.
While I see your concern, we have a Livestock Industry Diversification Act governing cervids here in Manitoba which falls under Agriculture and it's still illegal to shoot penned animals.
Perhaps it's their way of moving them under the authority of the department of agriculture.
On the West side of the Province, I don't know if the issue is we have it or if it is just they are watching to see when it becomes an issue.
I think the "walking up to a pet and shooting it..." is a bit off from reality......
bearkilr
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No cases so far but I fail to see what that has to do with anything. This isn't a question of allowing elk farming in AB, it's whether or not hunting farmed elk should be allowed.
bearkilr
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They are monitoring that area due to migrant elk from SK.
Currently under wildlife, and yes this moves it under agriculture. The concern is that as soon as it's under agriculture, the farmers will lobby agriculture that the only way to make money is hunt farms.
I believe there is also a clause I saw that would allow the minister to allow this.
bearkilr
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Perhaps that's a legitimate concern, I don't know the Alberta laws. Legally, a farmer can't even sell a beef cow in Manitoba and have it shot/butchered on his own farm, a completely retarded law if you ask me.
A few year back I was at the gun range near Bethune SK doing some shooting and up rolled 2 black GMC yukons with about 8 guys getting out of both. They were all in camo and and all had 300 ultra mags or bigger. I never saw these guys before and asked them were they were from...TEXAS the one guy said in a condescending tone. We're here to elk hunt. They were doing the canned hunt thing and were quite proud they were going to kill a trophy bull, each one of them.
I couldn't stand their attitude directed at me, their lack of respect for the range and that they called this penned kill a "hunt"...I left quite quick.
These guys are slim balls who opt for this kind of non sense. They are usually rich, want to brag everything up to buddies and lazy. They want the instant gratification of taking a trophy animal with as little work as possible.
The farmers who participate are no different from a street whore selling their bodies IMHO and I have as much respect for them as the slob hunters who pay them. It roots down to money, greed and self centerdness.
These idiots destroyed our trophy mule deer population in certain areas as well as giving "genuine" hunters a terrible rap.
Well, at the risk of sounding anti-american, you see alot of those things with Americans. I stayed at a hotel is Seattle a few years ago and a group of Marines we're there too. Their vans had Texas plates. In the moring I would say 'good morning'. Their response? Sarcastic, #### eating grins. Marines or not, #######s everyone of those ####heads. I've had other southern folk experiance that goes alot like this. It seems to me their whole perspective on just being born better that gives them their international stigma and they don't do alot about it.
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You could go and shoot an already wrapped steak out of the freezer and would have the same amount of "hunt" experience to it.
IMO I would call them kill farms, it isn't a hunt. A hunter rarely enjoys the high percentage success rate that these "hunts" offer. Ego and status comes to mind when I read about these so called hunts, if these folks want to kill so badly with as little effort as possible, go apply at a slaughter house somewhere, you can get real close to your game there.
Once again money controls everything and the ones making policy have little knowledge and experience with the issues at hand.
IMO I would call them kill farms, it isn't a hunt. A hunter rarely enjoys the high percentage success rate that these "hunts" offer. Ego and status comes to mind when I read about these so called hunts, if these folks want to kill so badly with as little effort as possible, go apply at a slaughter house somewhere, you can get real close to your game there.
Once again money controls everything and the ones making policy have little knowledge and experience with the issues at hand.
so what? they have money and spent it, the more money coming west the better.
